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Does anyone have any servicerefs for Open Shop?
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Hi Prl,
Ian.
For Melbourne the parameters are:
- Channel: Open Shop
- LCN: 75
- Service Type: 0x16 (22)
- ONID: 0x1013 (4115)
- TSID: 0x0503 (1283)
- SID: 0x0536 (1334)
- APID: 0x0000 (0)
- VPID: 0x0000 (0)
- TPID: 0x0000 (0)
- PMT: 0x0000 (0)
- PCR: 0x0000 (0)
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That's a bit odd for a 7 Melbourne service. All its other SIDs are in the range 0x530-0x538.
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Hi Prl,
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I have attached the raw data of the Seven Network scan for your review.
Regards,
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Curioser and curioser. The string 046E doesn't appear anywhere in SevenNetwork.xml.
What I see for openshop is:
Which is a more likely-looking SID for 7 Melbourne. It's currently unused, so it's a new service.
What I see for openshop is:
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Cambyses:python prl$ grep openshop SevenNetwork.xml
<ServiceID HValue="0x0536" Name="openshop">
<ServiceID HValue="0x0536" Name="openshop">
<ServiceID HValue="0x0536" Name="openshop">
<ServiceName String="openshop"/>
Cambyses:python prl$
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Hi Prl,
Regards,
Ian.
This is the summary screen of the service scan:prl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 18:14Curioser and curioser. The string 046E doesn't appear anywhere in SevenNetwork.xml.
What I see for openshop is:Which is a more likely-looking SID for 7 Melbourne. It's currently unused, so it's a new service.Code: Select all
Cambyses:python prl$ grep openshop SevenNetwork.xml <ServiceID HValue="0x0536" Name="openshop"> <ServiceID HValue="0x0536" Name="openshop"> <ServiceID HValue="0x0536" Name="openshop"> <ServiceName String="openshop"/> Cambyses:python prl$
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Yes, it shows the SID for openshop as 1334 or 0x0536. Not "SID: 0x046E (1334)". The decimal in your original post is correct but the hex is not, and it's the hex that I checked. 0x046E is 1134 decimal.
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Hi,
That is why I posted the source information. I don't know from where the 1134 typo error came but mistakes can happen when transcribing numbers from images. No-one died no one was hurt.
Original post corrected.
Regards,
Ian.
That is why I posted the source information. I don't know from where the 1134 typo error came but mistakes can happen when transcribing numbers from images. No-one died no one was hurt.
Original post corrected.
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Anyway, I'm trying to establish a pattern for the openshop servicerefs in the target markets (which is why I need to get the correct ONID, TSID, SID triples and the video encoding).
I think I can generate the openshop servicerefs for the target markets by using:
The scheme would generate (on my current data) unnecessary picon links for NSW Central Coast and Gold Coast, but should cover all the initial target markets for openshop (Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth & Sydney).
But I'd like to get a couple of openshop servicerefs from target markets other than Melbourne to confirm the pattern and to verify the encoding.
With that, I can avoid having to call for scan data.
I think I can generate the openshop servicerefs for the target markets by using:
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if onid == 0x1013 and tsid & 0xFF0 == 0x500 and sid & 0xF0F == 0x500: # Match metro Seven main channels (7 Adelaide, etc)
openshop_servicetype = 0x16 # Presumably MPEG4 SD
openshop_onid = onid
openshop_tsid = tsid
openshop_sid = sid & 0xFF0 | 0x6
But I'd like to get a couple of openshop servicerefs from target markets other than Melbourne to confirm the pattern and to verify the encoding.
With that, I can avoid having to call for scan data.
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Hi Peter
Happy to supply Brisbane openshop servicerefs. Can you point me to how I gather that for you?
Happy to supply Brisbane openshop servicerefs. Can you point me to how I gather that for you?
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Trial_Master wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:12Happy to supply Brisbane openshop servicerefs. Can you point me to how I gather that for you?
Thanks. Zap to openshop in live TV, then MENU>Information>Service, and the value I want is the last item in the list, labelled "Service reference".
If my assumptions about openshop's broadcast parameters are correct, the Brisbane openshop serviceref should be:
1:0:16:546:504EEEE0000:0:0:0:
The important fields are the third to the sixth, i.e. :16:546:504. The others are always the same for all DVB services in Australia.
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Thanks for checking again.
It takes time to transport the bits across the Nullarbor.
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Grumpy_Geoff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:45
This time I think they must be coming via ship, via the northern path
I was thinking camel train. But perhaps you're right: camel train via Cairns, Darwin & Broome
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Just did a service scan and not seeing that channel yet. Will keep an eye out during the week.
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OK, thanks.
Official launch isn't for a week.
Official launch isn't for a week.
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My reading of the screenshot of the DVB analyser that IanSav posted is that while Melbourne has an openshop service, it doesn't contain any, well, contents. It has no VPID (Video Packet Id) or APID (Audio Packet Id). The missing PMT and PCR PIDs are also missing, and they point to even more fundamental data structures.
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Same in Brisbane. Just rescanned again.
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I have the scripts that construct the picon setup ready to go for when I know what the servicerefs for OpenShop will look like. It's set up assuming that they will be like what's being used for Melbourne, but with variation according to the broadcast area.
I've also asked Daniel Hall at IceTV whether he knows whet form the servicerefs will have. I doubt whether IceTV will be carrying OpenShop EPG data, but he may know anyway.
I've also asked Daniel Hall at IceTV whether he knows whet form the servicerefs will have. I doubt whether IceTV will be carrying OpenShop EPG data, but he may know anyway.
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Brisbane openshop. Nothing broadcasting on it. When I zap to it, the previous station just freezes.
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Thanks. That confirms that I have the serviceref pattern correct and that openshop will be MPEG4 SD, as I guessed.
I'll update the picon repository today.
I'll update the picon repository today.
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Surely that's what you would have expected?
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To contribute to Grumpy_Geoff's enjoyment of Norwegian frypans, I've added open shop to the picon repository.
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I notice that openshop has changed its service type (0x16 -> 0x01).
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Hi Grumpy_Geoff,
FYI:
Ian.
This was a mistake and should have been corrected today.Grumpy_Geoff wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 21:05I notice that openshop has changed its service type (0x16 -> 0x01).
FYI:
- The openshop EPG was correct today but Network Seven are waiting for the date for the coming days. It is hoped that consistent data should be coming online soon.
- Work is still progressing on trying to find a solution for the audio problems on LCNs 74, 75 and 78 on the older Beyonwiz hardware.
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IanSav wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 21:29This was a mistake and should have been corrected today.Grumpy_Geoff wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 21:05I notice that openshop has changed its service type (0x16 -> 0x01).
Not yet.
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Hi Grumpy_Geoff,
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It is now correct in Melbourne. If it is still wrong tomorrow please update this thread and I will let John know.
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Hi Grumpy_Geoff,
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The correction was being tested in Melbourne and will soon be progressively applied across Australia.Grumpy_Geoff wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:35As of this morning, openshop is still the wrong service type
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TV channel changes starting this Thursday
From Thursday 19 March, TV viewers may notice some channel changes.
A high definition channel for 7 and 10 will become available. These channels will remain available in standard definition and viewers should not experience a loss of these channels.
A high definition channel for 9 will also become available at a later date in the near future (tentatively the end of March 2020).
Which areas are affected?
Spencer Gulf, SA (Port Pirie, Port Lincoln, Whyalla, and surrounds) and Broken Hill, NSW
https://www.facebook.com/SouthernCrossA ... 0821907163
WTV off air in Perth “until further notice”
Perth’s community TV broadcaster WTV is doing it tough, forced to cease broadcasting on Free to Air.
A post on Facebook last night (19 February) said, “Dear loyal WTV c44 viewers. WTV is currently off free-to-air television until further notice. There will be more updates to follow. In the meantime – our Undercurrent journalists will be bringing to you a variety of stories to enjoy on FB. We will also proceed to develop our YouTube channel further with more WTV productions. We thank you for your ongoing support. We appreciate your audience very much.”
https://tvtonight.com.au/2020/02/wtv-of ... otice.html
From Thursday 19 March, TV viewers may notice some channel changes.
A high definition channel for 7 and 10 will become available. These channels will remain available in standard definition and viewers should not experience a loss of these channels.
A high definition channel for 9 will also become available at a later date in the near future (tentatively the end of March 2020).
Which areas are affected?
Spencer Gulf, SA (Port Pirie, Port Lincoln, Whyalla, and surrounds) and Broken Hill, NSW
https://www.facebook.com/SouthernCrossA ... 0821907163
WTV off air in Perth “until further notice”
Perth’s community TV broadcaster WTV is doing it tough, forced to cease broadcasting on Free to Air.
A post on Facebook last night (19 February) said, “Dear loyal WTV c44 viewers. WTV is currently off free-to-air television until further notice. There will be more updates to follow. In the meantime – our Undercurrent journalists will be bringing to you a variety of stories to enjoy on FB. We will also proceed to develop our YouTube channel further with more WTV productions. We thank you for your ongoing support. We appreciate your audience very much.”
https://tvtonight.com.au/2020/02/wtv-of ... otice.html
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Hi, Jasmeet.
Thanks for the heads-up.
I'll need new scan data for Spencer Gulf to do the picons for those.
If someone in Broken Hill wants to post scan data for there, I'll add it, too (I don't currently have scan data to do picon setup for Broken Hil).
Thanks for the heads-up.
I'll need new scan data for Spencer Gulf to do the picons for those.
If someone in Broken Hill wants to post scan data for there, I'll add it, too (I don't currently have scan data to do picon setup for Broken Hil).
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Hi All,
The Nine Network has announced its new broadcast service. It is called "9Rush" and will be broadcast on LCN-96 in the major cities. The service is due to start at 19:00 on Sunday 5-Apr-2020. There is no comment if the regionals will get the service. This is to be an action / adventure channel to compete with "7mate".
Here is some more information:
Regards,
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The Nine Network has announced its new broadcast service. It is called "9Rush" and will be broadcast on LCN-96 in the major cities. The service is due to start at 19:00 on Sunday 5-Apr-2020. There is no comment if the regionals will get the service. This is to be an action / adventure channel to compete with "7mate".
Here is some more information:
- Nine confirms April launch for new adventure focused multi-channel RUSH
- Nine in talks with Discovery over new digital channel 'Rush'
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Thanks for the info Ian. Noted in my calendar
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Will this channel be broadcast in HD or will it be in not worth watching SD?
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Sir Lancelot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:45Will this channel be broadcast in HD or will it be in not worth watching SD?
Depending on its bit budget, it could also easily be not-worth-watching HD
My guess, though, would be MPEG4 SD. Neither article that IanSav linked to mentions it being HD, so I strongly suspect that it won't be.
In the metro areas where 9 Rush is launching, Nine already has Nine HD and 9 Gem HD and 4 (or 6?) SD channels: Nine (twice), 9 Go (twice), 9 Life & 9 Gem.
Anyway, looking at the TVBlackbox article Ian linked to, the content is a more compelling reason for me not to watch it than its broadcast parameters.
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Hi Prl,
I am awaiting the service to be defined / activated so I can give you the parameters. That should tell us if the service will be SD or HD.
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I am awaiting the service to be defined / activated so I can give you the parameters. That should tell us if the service will be SD or HD.
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Thanks, Ian. I'll need at least some scan data for 9 Rush, because I don't know what its SID will be.
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Thanks Peter.
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Has 9Rush started showing a channel loop (or anything) yet?
Thanks to Daniel Hall @ IceTV, I have all the information I need to construct the picon links for 9Rush without the need to ask for scan data.
I can make a picon set available for testing as soon as the channel gets activated.
Thanks to Daniel Hall @ IceTV, I have all the information I need to construct the picon links for 9Rush without the need to ask for scan data.
I can make a picon set available for testing as soon as the channel gets activated.
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Sir Lancelot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:45Will this channel be broadcast in HD or will it be in not worth watching SD?
Apparently (Daniel Hall again), it will be broadcast in MPEG2 SD. It seems a waste of bits not to be using MPEG4, but then I think the channel is pretty much a waste of bits anyway.
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