Will a MHL cable help resolution?

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Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by Videonut » Mon Mar 15, 2021 15:54

Even though my TV is supposed to be 4K I have never seen any program this way even on Netflix 4K account.

I also know that the TV also supports a connection that has MHL functions as well. I know that my V2 will allow me to plug in this sort of connection into both devices but can the V2 actually use the extra resolution? If not is there any work around?
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by prl » Mon Mar 15, 2021 16:38

Videonut wrote:
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I also know that the TV also supports a connection that has MHL functions as well. I know that my V2 will allow me to plug in this sort of connection into both devices but can the V2 actually use the extra resolution? If not is there any work around?

The V2 can output 4k. No broadcast TV is 4k in Australia (max 1080i), but if you have 4k media on a V2 encoded in a format the V2 can decode, then you should be able to see it on the TV at 4k, but you'll need a cable qualified for the bitrates for 4k (48G, Category 3 HDMI or Ultra High Speed HDMI).

I'm not sure where MHL fits in. AFAIK, it's not advertised as being supported on the V2.
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by MrQuade » Mon Mar 15, 2021 16:40

MHL is just a cable for connecting a mobile device to a display, which isn't relevant in this case.

The V2 can output a 4k signal, but no FTA transmissions are done at 4K (1080 max).

You can still set the V2 to receive the 1080 signal and upscale to 4K, but that won't really buy you any increase in quality.

If you have any 4k movies or videos, the V2 can play those and output them to the TV at their native 4k resolution.


A bit strange that you've never seen 4k from Netflix though. Odd that Netflix running on the TV's native apps, or from an external device?
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by prl » Mon Mar 15, 2021 17:01

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A bit strange that you've never seen 4k from Netflix though.

Does it check available bandwidth to the device before offering 4k?
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by MrQuade » Mon Mar 15, 2021 17:49

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Does it check available bandwidth to the device before offering 4k?
It usually streams at a lower bandwidth and then quickly finds its maximum usable resolution and adjusts to conditions on the fly.
It's all a bit of a sliding scale, so I am not sure it is all that easy to tell what resolution the stream is unless you can bring up a dedicated "info" popup or something similar (my LG TV's app has one for example).

Of course, the content needs to be 4K for there to be any perceptible difference in quality as well.

It's also possible that the streaming app itself doesn't support 4K streams for some reason, though I would think that would be a strange limitation for a brand-name 4K panel to have.

I am pretty sure Videonut has a fully working 50Mbps connection, so there shouldn't be a bottleneck there.
My measly little 28Mbps connection has no issues with 4K HDR streaming via TV app or Android app, so the Internet bandwidth is fairly forgiving.

I vaguely recall checking this when I visited Videonut's house, but can't remember the outcome to be honest.
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by Videonut » Mon Mar 15, 2021 18:54

When I saw that we haven't ever seen 4K on our TV is based on seeing TV's demonstrating it in shops.

This what my TV's guide says about MHL.
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by Videonut » Mon Mar 15, 2021 19:06

I should have mentioned in a previous posting that nobody from these forums has ever visited my house.

My interned speed is still officially 50MBPS. However, I' have been given from IINET a free 6-month upgrade . My last speed test was 267MBPS. It's a pity that I can't use this extra speed.
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by prl » Mon Mar 15, 2021 19:42

But can the TV use that bandwidth? Is your TV on wired Ethernet or WiFi?
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by MrQuade » Mon Mar 15, 2021 20:09

Videonut wrote:
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I should have mentioned in a previous posting that nobody from these forums has ever visited my house.
I've definitely been to your house :)
Unless you've moved since June of last year.
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by Videonut » Tue Mar 16, 2021 13:33

Nobody from these forums has ever visited my house since Warkus came about 3 years and I haven't moved. I have sent emails & left phone calls for him but never received a reply. It would be good if he didn't appear to have an overload of work.

I have done the Internet test in B/W menu and all 5 tests passed.

Today things get worse because Windows spent hours updating which means that once again they have reset everything back to whatever they want customers to use even if they don't want it. This is an old PC, but it still has some pretty good specs even if it might be about 10 years old. And they want me to do more updates.

As for if the TV checks bandwidth all I can say is that everytime I change channels I see the resolution displayed in the corner but 1920 is the highest that's broadcast, so I can't confirm 4K.
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by MrQuade » Tue Mar 16, 2021 14:16

Videonut wrote:
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Nobody from these forums has ever visited my house since Warkus came about 3 years and I haven't moved. I have sent emails & left phone calls for him but never received a reply. It would be good if he didn't appear to have an overload of work.
Maybe I am just forgettable then ;)
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As for if the TV checks bandwidth all I can say is that everytime I change channels I see the resolution displayed in the corner but 1920 is the highest that's broadcast, so I can't confirm 4K.
The Wiz will only report the resolution of the transmission, not the screen output resolution.
To see that, you'd need to bring up the INFO display from your TV, not from the V2.
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by prl » Tue Mar 16, 2021 14:22

Videonut wrote:
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As for if the TV checks bandwidth all I can say is that everytime I change channels I see the resolution displayed in the corner but 1920 is the highest that's broadcast, so I can't confirm 4K.
The bandwidth I was talking about was networking bandwidth to your TV, which may be less (even much less) than the bandwidth to your internet modem/router and between that and your computer if the TV is connected by WiFi. That might have an effect on the media resolution that Netflix offers, but I'm not sure. I don't use any subscriber streaming services.
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Re: Will a MHL cable help resolution?

Post by peteru » Tue Mar 16, 2021 19:36

To answer the original question...

NO.

MHL cables are of no relevance to the V2 and would not help in any way. The MHL cable does not improve the resolution capabilities when compared with standard HDMI connections.

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