HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

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HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

Post by cafelattegames » Tue Sep 30, 2014 16:16

I'd like to know if there are plans to support HbbTV 1.5 so that FreeView Plus can work.

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Re: HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

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Re: HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

Post by cafelattegames » Wed Oct 01, 2014 09:59

IanB, none of the posts on that thread answers my question. FreeView plus is only working for ABC iView currently. FreeView Plus uses the HbbTV 1.5 protocol but the T3 only supports HbbTV 1.0

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Re: HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

Post by prl » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:08

The posts pointed to say that the problem with getting Freeview Plus services to work is first a problem with Digital Rights Management (DRM in the posts). The content is intended only to be decoded by Freeview-approved devices, and the T3 doesn't have the necessary decryption keys.

There may also be problems with HbbTV 1.5 compatibility, but fixing them won't give the T3 the authorisation needed to decode shows that have DRM applied.
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Re: HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

Post by IanB » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:41

Yes the significant difference between 1.0 and 1.5 is the DRM support.

HbbTV-specification-1-5.pdf, See Figure 1 on page 7 for a gross summary.

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Re: HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

Post by prl » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:19

Ah. OK.

But won't the T3 still need whatever authorisation keys that the DRMed content requires, and presumably they will only be made available for Freeview-qualified devices?
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Re: HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

Post by IanB » Wed Oct 01, 2014 13:45

prl wrote:But won't the T3 still need whatever authorisation keys that the DRMed content requires, and presumably they will only be made available for Freeview-qualified devices?
Exceedingly yes. There are open source attempts at 1.5 but they all come unstuck with authorisation keys.

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Re: HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

Post by prl » Wed Oct 01, 2014 15:04

"Freeview:" masters of irony.

Even its broadcast content isn't the advertised "for free". It's just not feasible to avoid paying for it.
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Re: HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

Post by Paul55 » Wed Oct 01, 2014 16:51

prl wrote:The content is intended only to be decoded by Freeview-approved devices, and the T3 doesn't have the necessary decryption keys.
And long may it remain thus!!
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Re: HbbTV 1.5 and FreeView Plus

Post by prl » Wed Oct 01, 2014 17:04

Paul55 wrote:
prl wrote:The content is intended only to be decoded by Freeview-approved devices, and the T3 doesn't have the necessary decryption keys.
And long may it remain thus!!
Well, depends. Neither going with Freeview or not going with Freeview is a particularly attractive choice is the "Free"view Plus content is DRMed, though on balance the latter would be my preference.
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