DP-P1 & DP-H1 connectivity

BP3 · Post by **BP3** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 16:19

I used to be able to stream recordings from my DP-P1 on my DP-H1 and vica virca, but since loading version 350 this no longer works and neither machine detects the other even though I can steam from my PC to both. Both have client & server enabled. Any ideas on what is wrong with settings?

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 17:00

Hi BP3,

Tell us more about the physical network and all the network settings.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 17:07

Have you changed your network setup in the meantime?

Streaming from the PC to a Beyonwiz uses a completely different protocol (SMB) to steaming between them (WizPnP). Pretty much all they have in common is that they use TCP/IP, so succeeding with one doesn't tell you much about whether the other will work, apart from saying that your basic network functions are OK.

Can you see either Beyonwiz from the PC using a WizPnP file transfer client (like WizFX or YARDWiz)? Can you fetch the WizPnP index file into a browser on your PC (http://your.bw.ip.addr:49152/index.txt)? It should return a list of the recordings on the Beyonwiz.

My DP-H1 can see my DP-Lite just fine. Both run .350 (01.05.350 and 01.07.350 respectively). I can't test the other direction at the moment, because I don't currently have a HDD on the DP-H1, but I could set that up.

Vice versa, by the way.

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 17:49

prl wrote:Vice versa, by the way.

And while we are picking up errors, I hope he is streaming from his PC.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 17:52

Gully wrote:
prl wrote:Vice versa, by the way.
And while we are picking up errors, I hope he is streaming from his PC.

I let that one go as a typing slip...

BP3 · Post by **BP3** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 20:23

prl wrote:Have you changed your network setup in the meantime?

Streaming from the PC to a Beyonwiz uses a completely different protocol (SMB) to steaming between them (WizPnP). Pretty much all they have in common is that they use TCP/IP, so succeeding with one doesn't tell you much about whether the other will work, apart from saying that your basic network functions are OK.

Can you see either Beyonwiz from the PC using a WizPnP file transfer client (like WizFX or YARDWiz)? Can you fetch the WizPnP index file into a browser on your PC (http://your.bw.ip.addr:49152/index.txt)? It should return a list of the recordings on the Beyonwiz.

My DP-H1 can see my DP-Lite just fine. Both run .350 (01.05.350 and 01.07.350 respectively). I can't test the other direction at the moment, because I don't currently have a HDD on the DP-H1, but I could set that up.

Vice versa, by the way.

Yes streaming from the PC. Network settings same as before. Also WizFX & Wizilla downloads from the both DP-P1 and DP-H1 no problems. The router shows both in the list of devices on the local network.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 23:03

It's a bit odd. It can take a minute or so for the WizPnP servers to show up on a Beyonwiz client, but I guess you knew that.

I'll try to have a look at it tomorrow. I'll put a HDD on the H1, and my P2 runs 01.05.350, so I can see if it makes any difference to be running 01.05 both ends.

It'd be handy to know what IanSav has asked for, too - your physical network setup and the network settings on your Beyonwizes.

madmax · Post by **madmax** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 23:05

prl wrote:
Gully wrote:
prl wrote:Vice versa, by the way.
And while we are picking up errors, I hope he is streaming from his PC.
I let that one go as a typing slip...

Good thing you did, otherwise you would have proven Muphry's Law quite definitively.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 23:08

madmax wrote:
prl wrote:
Gully wrote:
prl wrote:Vice versa, by the way.
And while we are picking up errors, I hope he is streaming from his PC.
I let that one go as a typing slip...
Just as well, seeing as how you made exactly the same error. Muphry's Law strikes again??

Yes, indeed. I originally wrote it as "st[r]eaming", then thought better of it, but deleted the whole "[r]" instead of just the brackets.

Paul55 · Post by **Paul55** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 07:19

It may have just been a bad dream, but I seem to remember reading that the .350 firmware had the streaming problem that BR3 describes - but only with an H1.
I can't find the post, so maybe I've misquoted. Perhaps it's only when both machines are running 01.05.350 as prl suggests.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 13:12

Paul55 wrote:It may have just been a bad dream, but I seem to remember reading that the .350 firmware had the streaming problem that BR3 describes - but only with an H1.
I can't find the post, so maybe I've misquoted. Perhaps it's only when both machines are running 01.05.350 as prl suggests.

I think that this is the post you're thinking of, which suggests running 01.05.349/01.07.069 as appropriate on the Beyonwizes. However, as you can see below, this problem does not appear to affect me. There are links to download the firmware from in the post, and the one that I tried seemed to work. I've never tried this workaround, because I've never had the problem.

However, my three BWs, DP-Lite (01.07.350), DP-P2 (01.05.350) and DP-H1 (01.05.350) can all "see" both of the others in their respective file player Network areas. This tests all server/client combinations except 01.07.350->01.07.350. I can also "see" all three using getWizPnP on my Mac. All three BWs are connected to the same router (my ADSL modem/router) and the Mac is connected to the same router via a 100Mb/s Ethernet switch.

BP3 · Post by **BP3** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 18:49

Thanks- So it seems I should load 1.05.340 to my DP-P1 from the link but can leave 1.05.350 on my DP-H1. I'll give it a go.

BP3 · Post by **BP3** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 18:50

Sorry -typo again. I'll load 1.05.349 to my DP-P1.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 23:18

BP3 wrote:Sorry -typo again. I'll load 1.05.349 to my DP-P1.

My reading of it is that you have to run 01.05.349 or 01.07.069 as appropriate to the PVR on all PVRs. But maybe going back to 350 just on the P1 will work.

Swordfish805 · Post by **Swordfish805** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 23:48

Now this is interesting.....

I have a S1 and an H1 and for a very long time could stream material between them.

The H1 is connected by cat-5 to a switch which is in turn connected to an Apple Airport Extreme. The S1 is connected to an Apple Airport Express by cat 6 - the Airport Express talks to the Airport Extreme by wi-fi (so the S1 is connected to the rest of the network over a wi-fi hop but thinks it is connected by ethernet).

At some point many months ago I lost the ability to stream between the two units. I checked all the settings but couldn't find a problem. The power supply in the S1 is in the process of deteriorating (it's more than 5 years old) so I put the problem down to power inadequacy and lived without streaming.

I've just taken delivery of a P2 under the current trade in deal. Before sending the S1 back I moved into the same room as the Airport Extreme and connected it via ethernet (so I could copy content across to my NAS before returning the S1 to DPG).

Amazingly, - the H1 and the S1 can now see each other - there have been no changes to either unit other than:-

- there is no aerial cable plugged into the S1 now
- the S1 is connected directly to the Airport Extreme (no wi-fi hop)

Also, I connected the new P2 into the point where the S1 was (so now the P2 is connected to the Airport Express and must hop across ethernet and wi-fi to reach the rest of the network).

The P2 and the S1 can see each other, but the P2 and the H1 cannot see each other.

It looks like the connection path:

P2 - cat 5 - Airport Express - wi-fi - Airport Extreme - cat 5 - Netgear switch - cat 5 - H1

has too many segments or some sort of delay with the result that the P2 (and the S1 when it was where the P2 was) cannot see each other.

However, the path

S1 - cat 5 - Airport Extreme - cat 5 - Netgear switch - cat 5 - H1

and the path

P2 - cat 5 - Airport Express - wi-fi - Airport Extreme - cat 5 - S1 are both sufficiently shorter that each wiz can see the other.

Confused? I'm not surprised....

I'm resigned that I won't be able to get the P2 and H1 talking to each other - but if anyone has any brilliant ideas I'll give them a try. The S1 will be going back to DPG after the weekend.

raymondjpg · Post by **raymondjpg** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 14:27

Brilliance is not my strong suit, but:

Swordfish805 wrote:However, the path

S1 - cat 5 - Airport Extreme - cat 5 - Netgear switch - cat 5 - H1

What does the switch do here?

Swordfish805 wrote:and the path P2 - cat 5 - Airport Express - wi-fi - Airport Extreme - cat 5 - S1 are both sufficiently shorter that each wiz can see the other.

What happens if you substitute the H1 for the S1?

Am I missing something?

Elsewhere in this forum there is someone who cannot get two P2s to talk to each other with a direct ethernet connection between the two devices . Have you tried a direct connection between the P2 and the H1 (or as some would prefer both connected via an ethernet switch)? If that does not work, I don't see how any more complex network configuration might fix that.

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