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Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by peteru » Tue Sep 29, 2015 14:28

A new skin named Full-Metal-Wizard is available in beta firmware 20150928 and later. This skin is pre-installed in the base firmware and can be activated by using Setup / AV Setup / Skin Setup

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Post by peteru » Tue Sep 29, 2015 14:32

Here's my feedback for the skin author:

* The yellow and green coloured buttons look too similar. There needs to be more difference in the colour.
* The screen that shows what software updates are available now uses a proportional, rather than fixed, font and this breaks the formatting.

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Tue Sep 29, 2015 17:07

Here's my feedback for the skin author (also posted elsewhere):

Please, please, use Unix line endings rather than DOS line endings!
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by Wiz HQ » Tue Sep 29, 2015 17:14

prl wrote:Here's my feedback for the skin author (also posted elsewhere):

Please, please, use Unix line endings rather than DOS line endings!
What if the skin author does not know what you are talking about :wink:
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by IanSav » Tue Sep 29, 2015 17:23

Hi Jai,

What editor are you using to edit the XML files?

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Tue Sep 29, 2015 17:28

Wiz HQ wrote:
prl wrote:Here's my feedback for the skin author (also posted elsewhere):

Please, please, use Unix line endings rather than DOS line endings!
What if the skin author does not know what you are talking about :wink:
Then he'll need to be sent off to a Unix re-education camp ;)

In text files, Microsoft DOS (and Windows) use the control characters <CR><LF> (Control-M, Control-J) to mark the ends of lines.

Unix just uses <LF> to mark the ends of text lines.

It's one of those Microsoft-Unix religious war things :)
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by Wiz HQ » Tue Sep 29, 2015 17:45

Ok, I edited the files in Dreamweaver, now you should know that I have no coding experience at all, I have in the past changed a few things for our websites by basically searching xml files for images and changing or editing them, that is how I got started with this new skin and then it snowballed from there.

In this new skin I did change the fonts but I really did use a dodgy method, in the skin xml where it gives a key for each font used I basically just changed all the font keys to the font that I wanted to use :shock: not the best method of course but it achieved what I wanted for a first effort. Iansav did assist me with a few bits and pieces like dropping the general menu and gave me some insight into how he did it so I got a little bolder and started playing with positioning of some of the other items etc but there was not too much that I changed, maybe just the info bars I think.

I was planning on putting together a post from a novice perspective to encourage some of our less experienced guys to have a tinker, if you have a recommendation for a editor to use or a method to editing xml files for beginners let me know and I will include it in my post..
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by IanSav » Tue Sep 29, 2015 18:35

Hi Jai,

I use Win32Pad as my quick "go-to" editor for text files that may/will live on UNIX machines. It is more or less a simple Notepad replacement. There are a number of free editors out there that will allow you to select the desired EOL characters. (VIM, Notepad++ are two others that spring to mind.)

I seem to remember that Dreamweaver has an option to create a UNIX friendly version of files. (Web development has, by design, been created to ignore EOL issues but this is not a general web development environment.)

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Tue Sep 29, 2015 18:37

Native Windows tools tend to use Windows/DOS conventions for text files. IIRC NotePad can't even read Unix-style text files properly at all. TextPad(?) can read Unix-style text files OK, but writes them out as WIndows-style files.

It's possible that Dreamweaver has a preference that allows it to read and write Unix-style files.

I do most of my editing for the Beyonwiz firmware on OS-X, which is Unixoid enough for everything I use to work the way I expect it to.

As for the way you changed the fonts, IMO, that's the completely correct way to do it. The only possible problem would be that the fonts may not have exactly the same heights and widths and bits of text might get cut off because they no longer fit in their boxes. So far I haven't sen any evidence of that, but I haven't looked at Full-Metal-Wizard skin much yet.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by IanSav » Tue Sep 29, 2015 18:41

Hi Prl,
prl wrote:TextPad(?)
Wordpad.

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Tue Sep 29, 2015 18:43

IanSav wrote:Hi Prl,
prl wrote:TextPad(?)
Wordpad.

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That's the one.
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Post by peteru » Tue Sep 29, 2015 20:00

Wiz HQ wrote:I edited the files in Dreamweaver
https://helpx.adobe.com/dreamweaver/usi ... ences.html

Set Line Break Type to UNIX

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:37

Back to the skin itself: on the T4, in the MENU>Plugin menu, the menu entry "Multi-Transcoding Setup" is cut off on the right to "Multi-Transcoding Setu".
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Post by NedIS » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:41

Thanks for the new skin l like it! :D

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Post by peteru » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:51

prl wrote:Back to the skin itself: on the T4, in the MENU>Plugin menu, the menu entry "Multi-Transcoding Setup" is cut off on the right to "Multi-Transcoding Setu".
That's one more letter than the default skin which only shows "Multi-Transcoding Set"

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Wed Sep 30, 2015 13:26

peteru wrote:
prl wrote:Back to the skin itself: on the T4, in the MENU>Plugin menu, the menu entry "Multi-Transcoding Setup" is cut off on the right to "Multi-Transcoding Setu".
That's one more letter than the default skin which only shows "Multi-Transcoding Set"
But even though it's more text, the change in the font makes the truncation more noticeable.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Wed Sep 30, 2015 13:27

I'd also prefer the ends of the coloured button hints to be less pointy. Round rather than elliptical, perhaps?
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Post by peteru » Wed Sep 30, 2015 13:41

prl wrote:I'd also prefer the ends of the coloured button hints to be less pointy. Round rather than elliptical, perhaps?
Agreed. I actually think that the same shape as the MENU / INFO / TEXT / HELP buttons would work well. Basically rectangles with rounded corners.

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Wed Sep 30, 2015 16:56

The pixmap for the "unhandled button" popup doesn't blend correctly with backgrounds of UI screens.

E.g. from live TV, MENU>Setup, then TIMER (or any other inactive button for the context).

The "cross" popup punches a hole in the Setup screen background.

The pixmap size needs to be shrunk to match the actual content of the pixmap. The skin that displays the pixmap needs to be adjusted accordingly: in widget UnhandledKeyPixmap in screen UnhandledKey in skin.xml.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Thu Oct 01, 2015 16:12

I don't think there's enough colour difference between the GREEN and YELLOW button hints.
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Post by peteru » Thu Oct 01, 2015 16:35

prl wrote:I don't think there's enough colour difference between the GREEN and YELLOW button hints.
See the first feedback comment in this thread. :wink:

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

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peteru wrote:
prl wrote:I don't think there's enough colour difference between the GREEN and YELLOW button hints.
See the first feedback comment in this thread. :wink:
I'd forgotten that one.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Thu Oct 01, 2015 17:52

prl wrote:The pixmap for the "unhandled button" popup doesn't blend correctly with backgrounds of UI screens. ....
Bug #419: [Full-Metal-Wizard] Pixmap for the "unhandled button" popup doesn't blend correctly.

Fix submitted to the source repository.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Sun Oct 04, 2015 18:18

peteru wrote:...
* The yellow and green coloured buttons look too similar. There needs to be more difference in the colour.
...
I also don't think there's enough contrast between the text colour and the button colour on these two button hints.

I think that all the coloured button hints have a bit of a "jelly bean" look about them that I don't like that much.
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Post by prl » Sun Oct 04, 2015 18:23

Also, not specific to this skin (not sure how it is in the OverlayHD skin), but could the background for RADIO mode be made something else?
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by IanSav » Sun Oct 04, 2015 21:23

Hi Prl,
prl wrote:Also, not specific to this skin (not sure how it is in the OverlayHD skin), but could the background for RADIO mode be made something else?
The image used for the RADIO background is an AutoCad MVI file. The file is "/usr/share/enigma2/skin_default/radio.mvi". I don't believe I have a tool that can edit such a file. I can try overlaying a static image if you would like.

Update: I haven't found where "radio.mvi" is loaded. I will come back to this if someone really wants the image changed.

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by peteru » Sun Oct 04, 2015 23:05

It's not an AutoCAD file at all. It's an MPEG-2 file with one i-frame. It's skinnable. Just put your own version in the skin directory. You can also override it with a custom file. Put your custom radio.mvi in /etc/enigma2/

I agree with prl. The existing image is a bit juvenile.

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by IanSav » Sun Oct 04, 2015 23:08

Hi,
peteru wrote:It's not an AutoCAD file at all. It's an MPEG-2 file with one i-frame.
So much for the trustworthiness of a Google search on MVI. :P As I said, nothing I have would touch it.

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Mon Oct 05, 2015 09:31

I don't want it edited. I want something else. Pretty much anything else.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by tezza007 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:31

For me, the text in the Timer list isn't solid enough
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Post by prl » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:15

tezza007 wrote:For me, the text in the Timer list isn't solid enough
It's the same font as everywhere else. apart from the few screens where a fixed-width font is used..
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Post by tezza007 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:33

Timer Entry is where I notice it most
Thinking of changing back to the standard skin
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Post by peteru » Mon Oct 05, 2015 14:08

prl wrote:I don't want it edited. I want something else. Pretty much anything else.
Simplest fix is to copy black.mvi into /etc/enigma2 and rename it to radio.mvi

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by NedIS » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:02

I installed the new version of Overlay HD skin version 0.73 but have gone back to this skin (must be the kid in me?)
Agree with peteru though regarding colour of yellow and green buttons looking to similar!

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Post by IanSav » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:32

Hi NedIS,
NedIS wrote:I installed the new version of Overlay HD skin version 0.73 but have gone back to this skin (must be the kid in me?)
Agree with peteru though regarding colour of yellow and green buttons looking to similar!
Is there any feedback you would care to offer on why you don't like, or don't want to continue with, OverlayHD?

Perhaps changes can be made to expand its appeal.

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by jazza » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:34

prl wrote:
peteru wrote:
prl wrote:I don't think there's enough colour difference between the GREEN and YELLOW button hints.
See the first feedback comment in this thread. :wink:
I'd forgotten that one.

Sooooo.....

Bug #isnt green enough?

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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by jlowe73 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 21:55

Hi, has anyone else noticed this grey bar slightly obscuring the nice background, just above the text on the full metal skin when pausing a recording?
(you might have to look hard to see it)

I don't get it when pausing live TV, only on recordings. Otherwise, I love this skin, wish I'd installed it earlier.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by MrQuade » Wed Jul 20, 2016 14:13

That's present on the default skin too. You can press EXIT to dismiss it.

The have been mutterings about changing that navigation bar so that it takes up less screen space and doesn't obscure subtitles.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by jlowe73 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 15:30

sorry, you've misunderstood... zoooom right in on the picture, you can see that the nice dimpled metal patterned effect has just a flat grey bar running through it, as if the graphics file is split in two, or is not big enough to fill the infobar area.

I had a look at the skin directory last night, but couldn't identify which png was being used here.

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Post by MrQuade » Wed Jul 20, 2016 16:20

jlowe73 wrote:sorry, you've misunderstood... zoooom right in on the picture, you can see that the nice dimpled metal patterned effect has just a flat grey bar running through it, as if the graphics file is split in two, or is not big enough to fill the infobar area.
Ahh of course, apologies. Phone screen was not showing that detail.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Wed Sep 28, 2016 15:43

jlowe73 wrote:Hi, has anyone else noticed this grey bar slightly obscuring the nice background, just above the text on the full metal skin when pausing a recording? ...
Bug #532: [skin] Fill anomalies in MoviePlayer Infobar

The problem is present in both the Full-Metal-Wizard and the default easy-skin-aus-hd, though you have to look pretty closely to see it in easy-skin-aus-hd.

The problem is not present in the OverlayHD skin. It uses a simple solid colour fill background.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by prl » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:21

prl wrote:
jlowe73 wrote:Hi, has anyone else noticed this grey bar slightly obscuring the nice background, just above the text on the full metal skin when pausing a recording? ...
Bug #532: [skin] Fill anomalies in MoviePlayer Infobar

The problem is present in both the Full-Metal-Wizard and the default easy-skin-aus-hd, though you have to look pretty closely to see it in easy-skin-aus-hd.

The problem is not present in the OverlayHD skin. It uses a simple solid colour fill background.
I have submitted fixes for both skins.
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Re: Full-Metal-Wizard skin

Post by peteru » Thu Dec 22, 2016 22:20

Merged and pushed.

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