New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by dfp » Sun Jun 17, 2018 18:35

Thanks for adding the additional explanations, I am a windows techie more so and yes the old unix commands are a little bit of a different world for me :)

Will get back to it once the box goes to idle state again from recording thanks.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by prl » Sun Jun 17, 2018 18:41

awk is a processing tool for text lines with fields (defaults to whitespace separators), so
awk '/\/media\/hdd/{print $11}'
finds lines from the output of the ls command containing the pattern (actually a regular expression) /media/hdd, and prints the 11th field, which is the file name.

Awk's another funny etymology: from the names of its authors, Aho, Weinberg & Kernighan (the latter one of the original Unix authors, all of them from Bell Labs).
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by dfp » Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:10

ok killed the timers for an hour and checked the counters are not increasing for 5 mins (Current setting of hdd spin down 2 mins anyway)

root@beyonwizt4:~# grep '[hs]dparm' /home/root/logs/E*.log
{532}< 35.169> [Console] command: ('sdparm', 'sdparm', '--set=SCT=0', '/dev/sda')
{532}< 35.174> [eConsoleAppContainer] Starting sdparm
{532}< 5018.909> [Console] command: ('sdparm', 'sdparm', '--flexible', '--readonly', '--command=stop', '/dev/sda')
{532}< 5018.909> [eConsoleAppContainer] Starting sdparm
{532}< 5020.014> [Console] finished: ('sdparm', 'sdparm', '--flexible', '--readonly', '--command=stop', '/dev/sda')
root@beyonwizt4:~#


So i do see a command=stop in there so that means it did send a sleep command to HDD?

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Pete123 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:17

dfp wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 16:43
On an initial boot the hdd does write for awhile when then put into standby on those counters but once its idling with no writing the hdd is still whiring away but no actual clicking heard just the spin of the drive.

Probably a silly question, but the whirring noise you're hearing wouldn't be the cooling fan running in standby by any chance?

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Post by dfp » Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:21

I am now wondering that too! Should that be running 24/7? Ie often it runs all night long with no timers and I can hear it in the morning. It has a high pitched whine too it similar to a hard drive spinning noise but could very well be the fan.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Pete123 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:25

dfp wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:21
I am now wondering that too! Should that be running 24/7? Ie often it runs all night long with no timers and I can hear it in the morning. It has a high pitched whine too it similar to a hard drive spinning noise but could very well be the fan.
Check the fan speed settings in the main menu:

From live tv... Menu - Setup - System - Fan Speed

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by dfp » Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:30

Image

It is quite low but still partly there, how safe is it to turn that right down for standby

This could be it.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Pete123 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:36

dfp wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:30

It is quite low but still partly there, how safe is it to turn that right down for standby

I'd try turning it all the way down, temporarily at least, to determine if the noise you're hearing is the fan or not.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by dfp » Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:40

Wow I think it is actually the fan!

I never noticed that in standby before now so maybe it was turned all the way down in the older firmware i had which was a few firmware versions old.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Pete123 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:57

dfp wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 19:40

I never noticed that in standby before now so maybe it was turned all the way down in the older firmware i had which was a few firmware versions old.
Fan Speed Control for U4 & T4 was added to 17.5 series firmware, so if you hadn't updated for a while this would be new to you. I'm not exactly sure, but i think previously the fan could be set to be either on or off during standby, and off was the default setting (I think).

This would mean that you'd be used to no fan running during standby, but now the new firmware has the fan running at low speed by default, so you're noticing the noise.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by dfp » Sun Jun 17, 2018 20:00

yeah i was probably on firmware from over 12 months ago so I suspect this was it and I have assumed it was the HDD.

That makes sense I knew it wasnt making a noise before, I now need to make a decision to kill the fan completely in standby or not, I suspect if it used to be off it should be safe to do so as it sits in a room I sleep in.

I have just learnt a lot from PRL in the meantime on working via putty and the various meanings. Thankyou both very happy I now know its not the HDD spinning away all day.

Appreciate the great support you guys give to a great product :)

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Pete123 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 21:17

dfp wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 20:00
yeah i was probably on firmware from over 12 months ago so I suspect this was it and I have assumed it was the HDD.

That makes sense I knew it wasnt making a noise before, I now need to make a decision to kill the fan completely in standby or not, I suspect if it used to be off it should be safe to do so as it sits in a room I sleep in.

I have just learnt a lot from PRL in the meantime on working via putty and the various meanings. Thankyou both very happy I now know its not the HDD spinning away all day.

Appreciate the great support you guys give to a great product :)

You're welcome (for my small part).

With regard to turning the fan off in standby - I personally don't like to have no active cooling in standby, and since I also have a T4 in my bedroom and don't like to hear the fan, I simply shut the box down to deep standby when I've finished watching tv for the night (saves power too). I use a power timer to wake the box to standby every afternoon, so it's ready to go when I go to use it. This works for me, but your circumstances may be different, of course.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by dfp » Sun Jun 17, 2018 21:29

Probably not a bad idea to do it this way I was thinking that too. I used to deep standby by t3 before the t4 every time.

Forgot about that bright blue LED though might need to find the black tape.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Eddie K » Thu Jun 21, 2018 18:26

I have a Beyonwiz T2 with a genuine wireless USB adapter.

My wireless connection stops working after about 10mins or so, with official firmware version 17.5 17/04/2018. I’ve tried both DHCP and fixed I/P addresses and it doesn’t make any difference.

I installed the previous official version 16.1 10/07/2017 and the wireless works all day without any issues.

In both installation instances, of the new and older versions, I always install as a new install, and I don’t restore previous backups.

I use the Beyonwiz app to regularly set recordings without having to turn the TV on.

I want to load the latest firmware, but it doesn’t seem to work on the T2.

Hoping you can help me, with this issue.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Grumpy_Geoff » Thu Jun 21, 2018 20:27

Eddie K wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 18:26
I have a Beyonwiz T2 with a genuine wireless USB adapter.

I assume that means you have the adapter the Beyonwiz shop labels as "WiFi USB Antenna (Wireless N 300Mbps) T2 – T3 – T4".
That has the Realtek RTL8192CU chipset.
My wireless connection stops working after about 10mins or so, with official firmware version 17.5 17/04/2018. I’ve tried both DHCP and fixed I/P addresses and it doesn’t make any difference.
I tested a different Wi-Fi dongle with the same chipset on later firmware and had no issues with the connection dropping out. See here and also here.

I installed the previous official version 16.1 10/07/2017 and the wireless works all day without any issues.
Wi-Fi is a black art.

I use the Beyonwiz app to regularly set recordings without having to turn the TV on.
Are trying to say the app couldn't find the T2? Not unusual, even for me and my T2/T4/U4 are all connected via ethernet. The app doesn't like the mobile device swapping SIDs.
What does MENU>>Information>>Network report when you can't connect?
I want to load the latest firmware, but it doesn’t seem to work on the T2.
Are you meaning the beta, as you mentioned you already put 20180417 on the T2?
If so, see "Switching your software feed to a live beta".

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Eddie K » Thu Jun 21, 2018 21:09

Yes I’m using the Beyonwiz WiFi USB adapter (Wireless N 300Mbps).

Good to know I can get a cheaper WiFi dongle, I may look at getting one from MSY.

I find that the adapter is still visble, but when I run a test in the select network device, but it fails on obtaining an IP address.
Yes I can’t locate the device from the app, even after it worked for a while.

I’m sticking with the official versions at this stage, I was using the Beta versions, that’s when I started having the WiFi issues.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Grumpy_Geoff » Thu Jun 21, 2018 21:13

Hi Eddie K,

Some other things I thought of whilst washing the dishes :wink:
Can you ping the T2 when the wireless connection stops working (as you say)?
Can you access OpenWebif on it from a phone/tablet/laptop/PC (http://beyonwizt2/ or http://{T2-IP-address}?
Can you see the T2's shares in Windows File Explorer?
Have you rebooted the router/access point (first) and the T2 (second)?

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by IanSav » Thu Jun 21, 2018 21:34

Hi,

My advice is, and has always been, avoid using USB WiFi dongles. Invest in an inexpensive WiFi bridge device and watch the issues fade away.

(Note that if the WiFi network is broken then the bridge won't help. What the bridge does is remove dongle and firmware considerations from the mix. They also allow the WiFi device to be optimally positioned.)

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Grumpy_Geoff » Thu Jun 21, 2018 21:39

Hi Eddie K,

And one more thing - a timer set from the WizOS app EPG entry does not get any pre/post padding applied. You're much better off setting it from the EPG in OpenWebif browser interface using a mobile device, laptop, desktop.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by brianh » Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:18

...just a minor whinge about the 17.5 FW....

A long time ago in a topic far, far away, I had posted about the order of choices when navigating away form a channel after electing to record by saving an event. The default choice was "save timeshift and stop recording", when it would make far more sense to have it default to the next choice which is "save timeshift and continue recording", as that would facilitate quick sequential key presses to achieve the desired result, instead you need to scroll down and select a different option in order to continue the operation that you set out to perform....... the risk was that if you are on autopilot and just "click through", you end up cancelling the recording and have to start again - and it's still the case in 17.5

It also still requires the same choice to be made on the channel that one navigates to, which also doesn't seem to make sense... from memory, I think that aspect of behaviour was viewed by some as a bug - or at least an unwanted behaviour, but can't be sure as it was a while ago now.

I remember at the time there was an indication that the change could be incorporated in a FW update, but obviously got overlooked between then and now. Any chance that sort of change could be rolled into the next OTA update?
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by MrQuade » Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:29

brianh wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:18
It also still requires the same choice to be made on the channel that one navigates to, which also doesn't seem to make sense... from memory, I think that aspect of behaviour was viewed by some as a bug - or at least an unwanted behaviour, but can't be sure as it was a while ago now.
Are you sayong that it asks you if you want to save timeshift twice? I just tried this and is didn't ask twice. Can you clarify what you mean, or point us towards the previous thread where this was discussed?

I won't comment on what the most sensible default choice would be, except to suggest that it might be an idea to have the list move the user's last selection to the top of the list as the new default highlighted action.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Paul_oz53 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 02:41

MrQuade wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:29

...
I won't comment on what the most sensible default choice would be, except to suggest that it might be an idea to have the list move the user's last selection to the top of the list as the new default highlighted action.

My own preference would be the same as brianh. It's rare I cancel a timeshift save when I change channels. Almost always pick the 'continue to save timeshift and zap to new channel' option so the option order is a minor irritation. Making the order of the options either configurable or dynamic would work though if reordering the list for all users was seen as undesirable.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by prl » Fri Jun 29, 2018 09:00

brianh wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 23:18
It also still requires the same choice to be made on the channel that one navigates to, which also doesn't seem to make sense... from memory, I think that aspect of behaviour was viewed by some as a bug - or at least an unwanted behaviour, but can't be sure as it was a while ago now.

Could you confirm that it is still happening and give a button press-by-button press description of how to trigger it?
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by MrQuade » Fri Jun 29, 2018 09:15

Paul_oz53 wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 02:41
Making the order of the options either configurable or dynamic would work though if reordering the list for all users was seen as undesirable.
Having thought about it, I am not sure that dynamic would be a wise move after all. Having options change order would more than likely lead to confusion as users would no longer be able to rely on "muscle memory" to do what they want.

Making the default configurable could be a way to go, and would probably not involve additional setup options, since there is already an option for configuring the "don't ask" default action.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by brianh » Sun Jul 01, 2018 21:35

..here is the link to the previous post.... key presses are also detailed there:

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11065&p=151236#p151236

I've just tested out after getting IcetV EPG re-loaded - thanks to the nbn we've had the internet disappear in an unannounced fashion last week and only just got back on line, so no IceTV EPG for the upgraded T4 until now.....

I am now getting decidedly weird behaviour.

A) tried saving an event playing on ABC 24 hour news - hit record, select the event to save, dialogue box confirms, I press OK. Open EPG, try to navigate to SBS HD, as soon as I press OK, the picture on ABC freezes, I get the dialogue box with the choices
Save timeshift and stop recording (default)
Save timeshift and continue recording (desired!)
Cancel save timshift
Continue save timeshift

I select the second choice and hit OK, I immediately get the same dialogue box again, hit the second choice again, stays on frozen picture. I brought up the EPG and tried going to SBS HD, no response. The only way I could get anything to play was open the media list and play files off the HDD, if I stop, it goes back to the frozen ABC picture. I think I did manage to zap to channel 7 from the EPG and it played, not sure why it would and not SBS. At one stage (playing one of the recorded files, I think) a warning flashed on the screen that there was missing program info, but it was gone too fast for me to see and it didn't appear again despite trying several things.

I went to the Media file list, there were three files there for the ABC channel, one with zero time and no content.

Here's where it gets more weird.

B) I deleted the recordings and this time, started on SBS HD, hit record, selected the event as the one to be saved, brought up the EPG, navigated to ABC News 24, hit OK, got the dialogue box:
Save timeshift and stop recording (default)
Save timeshift and continue recording (desired!)
Cancel save timshift
Continue save timeshift
I selected the save and continue recording, then it went to the ABC and the picture played happily WITHOUT the second instance of the dialogue box (?????????)

I don't know whether the box picked up some dodgy EPG info and that's throwing It for a loop somehow... does the Event Save recording method rely on the integrity of the program info in the EPG and could that be a factor?


Either way, when I get this random behaviour sorted, there's still the order of choices in the dialogue box - when it is triggered by "Save an Event", you're clearly trying to save the whole event - why would you want to record what's in the time shift buffer and stop recording?
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by MrQuade » Sun Jul 01, 2018 21:57

Ahh, you previously choose to save the current event a then used the EPG tp zap. That was the critical info. I'd assumed that you were just in timeshift mode and had zapped without first having asked to save the current event.

The timeshift save code is pretty rediculously complicated, so I'll let prl puzzle that one out ;)

However, if that is your normal use case for that feature then you may be able to avoid a lot of hassle. My own settings are "Show warning when timeshift is stopped" = disabled and "Timeshift Dave a on zap" = Don't save.

When I chose to save the current event then zap, I don't get bugged by any popups, the Wiz just saves the timeshift buffer and starts the timer without asking anything.

Now I am not saying that the bug shouldn't be fixed, I agree that it should be. But in the meantime, you can save yourself the complications.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by brianh » Sun Jul 01, 2018 22:32

MrQuade wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 21:57
..... if that is your normal use case for that feature then you may be able to avoid a lot of hassle. My own settings are "Show warning when timeshift is stopped" = disabled and "Timeshift Dave a on zap" = Don't save.

When I chose to save the current event then zap, I don't get bugged by any popups, the Wiz just saves the timeshift buffer and starts the timer without asking anything.

Now I am not saying that the bug shouldn't be fixed, I agree that it should be. But in the meantime, you can save yourself the complications.
Thanks MrQuade, I will keep that in mind but I like to keep Dave real, I never let him time shift - especially when zapping him. But I will certainly try those other settings out and see if they help :P
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Ahh, you previously choose to save the current event a then used the EPG tp zap. That was the critical info. I'd assumed that you were just in timeshift mode and had zapped without first having asked to save the current event.

The timeshift save code is pretty rediculously complicated, so I'll let prl puzzle that one out ;)
... I did see that lower down in the linked post, so I will wait for prl to weigh in and see what he thinks.

I also have another box I just updated that I can test on (my mother's, sent to me for troubleshooting) - my earliest post was made after initially testing on that box and I didn't experience the weirdness posted above - I'll test again during the week and see if the weirdness is just my T4 .
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by prl » Tue Jul 03, 2018 15:51

MrQuade wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 21:57
The timeshift save code is pretty rediculously complicated, so I'll let prl puzzle that one out ;)

The code on EPG exit is pretty messy, too. Combine the two, and you're in deep water.

Timeshift save doesn't need to be involved to have unwanted interactions with timeshift on EPG exit.

From live TV, and with EPG, MENU>Channel preview mode set to "on".

BACK to enter timeshift
EPG
Navigate to different channel
OK
OK, "You seem to be in timeshift..." popup
OK to select "Leave timeshift"
Leaves timeshift, but has new "You seem to be in timeshift..." popup
OK to select "Leave timeshift"
Back in live TV when it should have just done a channel preview in the EPG.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by brianh » Sat Jul 07, 2018 15:07

A bit of further testing...

Mr Quade's settings work for me, so that's my solution to the order of the commands in the dialogue - I will just avoid them...

Hopefully they will be changed anyway, as it just makes sense to have the "keep recording" setting uppermost.

As to the complications of starting a recording then zapping using the EPG, from my brief test, it looks like Mr Quade's suggested settings largely address the issue that crops up by not invoking the dialogue boxes.... could be worth a mention in a "tips & tricks" sticky to help stop others being trapped.

As to the weirdness, I think that is looking like a tuner issue - I can't navigate away from the channel being recorded without the picture freezing, but it's OK if I navigate to a different channel on the same MUX.... given that one of the boxes works OK, it's not the signal strength.

I recall suspecting this T4 of giving me tuner problems before
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=12069
- yet when I investigated, I couldn't pin it down - perhaps one of the loop cables is dodgy? I did experience the "picture tearing" again but have pinned that down to the HDMI cable/TV, so not the T4.

I'll have a further play when time permits, but I've plenty other things that take precedence and it's not my main unit so I'm not in a hurry.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by brianh » Sat Jul 07, 2018 15:39

Regarding the Tuner issue -

Two settings were as follows (Tuners confirmed as all DVB-T2):
Preferred Tuner = Tuner A
Preferred Tuner for recordings = auto

I just changed the Preferred Tuner to = auto,
initially no change - rebooted and tried again....

Now the box happily moves to any other MUX when a recording is in progress....
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by steve_666 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 15:49

Hi,
Just installed the new firmware and can't get the WiFi to work now.
It can't even pick up the network, its the same dongle as before.
Network wizard searches for network can't find anything.
Network test says:
Lan adapter: wlan connection
Wireless network: connected
Dhcp: enable
IP: unconfirmed
Namesever: unconfirmed

Accesspoint: 00:00:00:00:00
Ssid :
Link quality :
Signal: -55dBm
Bitrate: unsupported
Encryption :off or wpa2 on

Tried setting it up manually and still same issue.
I can't work it out at this point

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Paul_oz53 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 20:51

steve_666 wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 15:49
Hi,
Just installed the new firmware and can't get the WiFi to work now.
It can't even pick up the network, its the same dongle as before.
Network wizard searches for network can't find anything.
Network test says:
Lan adapter: wlan connection
Wireless network: connected
Dhcp: enable
IP: unconfirmed
Namesever: unconfirmed

Accesspoint: 00:00:00:00:00
Ssid :
Link quality :
Signal: -55dBm
Bitrate: unsupported
Encryption :off or wpa2 on

Tried setting it up manually and still same issue.
I can't work it out at this point

I have had the wireless adapters working on the 20180417 and later firmware. I did have an issue a while back with the encryption setting for wpa2. See this post.

Scroll through the settings and try the other wpa2 setting.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by steve_666 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 13:27

Hi Paul,
Thanks for your reply.
So i followed the instructions you suggested and still no go, network gods hate me.
It was just a firmware update and things should be working fine, operating as normal but nope.

I made an open network connection on my router without a password and it can't even detect it. I made a hotspot with my phone it detected it but wouldn't connect even with a open connection.

Nothing has changed with the router everything is the same so I have no idea.

As I said I just updated to the newer firmware and went through the normal set-up and cant see the network.

Ip address: unconfirmed
Namesever: unconfirmed
Still the same

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Paul_oz53 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 17:53

steve_666 wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 13:27
Hi Paul,
Thanks for your reply.
So i followed the instructions you suggested and still no go, network gods hate me.
It was just a firmware update and things should be working fine, operating as normal but nope.

I made an open network connection on my router without a password and it can't even detect it. I made a hotspot with my phone it detected it but wouldn't connect even with a open connection.

Nothing has changed with the router everything is the same so I have no idea.

As I said I just updated to the newer firmware and went through the normal set-up and cant see the network.

Ip address: unconfirmed
Namesever: unconfirmed
Still the same

I just took the rlt8192cu out of the box and retried. I'm now running the beta but that shouldn't affect this.

If encryption is set to "wpa" I get the "unconfirmed[s]" in the network test. With it set to "wpa or wpa2", it works ok for me at a pretty ordinary 72.2 Mbps. (My other EDUP adapter connects at 432 Mbps.)

Have you tried setting a manual IP address, etc.? That worked ok for me too. One trap was the first time I tried it connected to my neighbours FON network. I had to scan for available wireless networks to avoid that trap. I used autoconfiguration and the router connected it as ...xxx.102
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by steve_666 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 19:03

Hi,
Yep tried manual settings, triple checked everything and still nothing.
in the encryption on the test says none or wap2 on

Tried no encryption, wap, wap2 etc still nothing.
Tried mobile phone hotspot which it did pick up (open network) but no internet access, it didnt pick up home wifi.
Tried all auto settings still nothing.
Ever reinstalled the firmware again, still nothing.
Rebooted the router, T4 still cant see it.

As i said i only updated to new firmware.
I have no idea
still get
Ip address: unconfirmed
Namesever: unconfirmed

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Grumpy_Geoff » Sun Aug 12, 2018 19:46

steve_666 wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 15:49
Just installed the new firmware and can't get the WiFi to work now.
...

My T4 is on 20180627 firmware which is an old beta by today's standards. It normally uses an ethernet connection, but for grins I too got the pissy little Edimax EW-7722UTn (RTL8192CU chipset) USB Wi-Fi dongle out of its box and connected it to the T4.

It connected okay, as below. I know it works as I got the screenshots via OWIF using the new IP address.
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WLAN.png
She works...

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Paul_oz53 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 21:04

Hi Steve_666,

If you look at adapter settings as per Grumpy_Geoff's post, the setting for encryption must be as per his post for my adapter to work too. That the setting I had to adjust.

Apart from that, I am at a loss. I'd reinstall the firmware but not restore settings and set it up from a clean state to see if that works.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by steve_666 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 19:26

thanks for the info.
Ok i crossed checked with what you had and yep i had everything right.
I did the hotspot on my phone again and it worked everything was fine, but cant have it like that.

But for some reason it wont pick up the home wifi network now, everything else can see it even the neighbors can see it but the T4 cant.
this thing, every update it does this strange network game with me and its always something different lol

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Paul_oz53 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 20:09

When I plug the adapter into the usb port it is recognized immediately. In Menu- Setup - Network - Network - Network adapter selection I pick wlan.

On the next screen it has a line to scan for available networks. This brings up about half a dozen networks, from which I select mine.

If it doesn't show I'd wonder if your router is hiding its SSID. You should check that to be sure.

Not much else it could be if the adapter works with the phone and the phone works with the router.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by steve_666 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 22:20

nope not hiding its ssid, thats why i am confused.
There isnt a reason it shouldn't work and i dont get it.
It worked fine before the update, only thing that changed was the update...
so yeah i have no idea

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by steve_666 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 22:53

ok so i got it to work now.
No idea why the T4 wouldn't connect when nothing had changed on the router so i checked the router settings.
All the same settings as before as i said and no connection.
I ended up putting the wifi mode to auto (was set to N only before without a issue)
set channel control to auto ( was on 12 before because the others where being used without issues)

so now bam it works, very strange that things all worked before but not now so thanks everyone for the help.

so been playing around with it and YouTube TV says network connection issue, anyone else have that issue?
Did they fix it with the new firmware? they had that overlay issue last firmware
enough for one night :)

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by MrQuade » Mon Aug 13, 2018 23:27

steve_666 wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 22:53
set channel control to auto ( was on 12 before because the others where being used without issues)
The newer drivers might be set to only allow channels that are valid in the US. That is 11 and below.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by jpp » Sun Dec 09, 2018 18:10

G'day all,
Very, very long time since I've been here or even looked at this forum :( .

Just upgraded to the current firmware from the 2017 last official FW. Reason, until just very recently, my T2 Wiz was working like an appliance, so I didn't even think of looking for an update.

But, over the last few weeks, I've been getting quite a few timer error messages from ICTV, even though the timers on the Wiz were always fine anyway. For that reason I didn't really see any reason to upgrade and thought that the issue was on the ICTV server side and that it would probably be fixed soon anyway.

But, after few emails, ICTV asked me to send the timer xml file to Daniel and Colin to be looked at by them and also passed onto Peter for analysis as there is apparently a bug that Peter is trying to ferret out.

But, after I installed the current FW, I now have a problem with the AC3 down mix.

The AC3 down mix is no longer working as it did.

With the AC3 down mix setting ON, Chan 90 and 10 HD streams often produce no output at all or if they do, the sound level fades in and out.

This occurs only when these channels stream AC3/Dolby.

With the AC3 setting OFF, sound level is constant, but at a lower level than the non HD channels with AC3 audio. This used to be an issue way back, but I thought that that had now been solved by the broadcasters.

Oddly, Chan 20, 30 and 70 don't have this difference in sound level between their HD and SD channels, regardless of the AC down mix setting, perhaps because at the time I was testing these out, they did not transmit AC audio.

As I don't care about AC3 audio, my preferred setting is with AC3 down mix ON. Prior to the FW upgrade this worked well across all channels regardless of whether SD or HD with AC3 audio broadcasts were selected.

Has anyone else got the same problem?
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by prl » Sun Dec 09, 2018 18:51

Exactly which version do you mean by "Current FW"?

I haven't yet been able to replicate the "false IceTV conflicts" problem or find any obvious problem in the code.

Daniel told me you have a T2. Does it have a USB tuner?
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by jpp » Sun Dec 09, 2018 19:08

Hi Peter,

Yes, a T2 with USB tuner

FW is 17/04/2018.

A bit more on the USB tuner... (I bought a new one recently btw, but that made no difference)

I'm still having issues with it. It seems as if it doesn't have automatic gain control provision. As my level signal from the antenna varies quite a bit, I need to change the insertion loss/gain regularly to avoid the picture either not being there at all or pixelating due to overload. Luckily I rarely need the 3rd tuner, so I haven't been very active about trying to solve the problem.

I won't go into the details here as this problem has been with me on the previous FW (I think it was the 4-11-2015 FW) as well - I mention it here in case it could be related.

Just coming back to my AC3 down mix issue, it's as if the down mixing has changed from the previous FW.
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by jpp » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:18

Could I just receive a reply as to whether the AC3 down mix FW has changed in the 17/04/2018 FW from the previous FW?

If it has, I may consider rolling back the previous FW. Apart from bogus Timer Clashes reports from ICTV that only came up just in the last few weeks, I had no issues at all with the previous official FW.

Thanks

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by csutak40 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 14:30

Because of a conversation on the IceTV Forum (about doubled up recordings) I thought I'd download and re-install the latest firmware (which seems to be this one) for my T4
When I follow the link, I get this
2019-06-05_14-16-45.jpg
2019-06-05_14-16-45.jpg (147.17 KiB) Viewed 6951 times
Incidentally, I also keep getting logged out, have to keep logging back in, (in the interest of full disclosure :D )
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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by Grumpy_Geoff » Wed Jun 05, 2019 14:35

csutak40 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 14:30
Because of a conversation on the IceTV Forum (about doubled up recordings) I thought I'd download and re-install the latest firmware (which seems to be this one) for my T4
When I follow the link, I get this
2019-06-05_14-16-45.jpg

I think you'll be wasting your time re-installing the firmware.
Regardless, 20180417 is not the latest firmware - 20190207 is. Get it from here - https://beyonwiz.com.au/downloads/
csutak40 wrote: Incidentally, I also keep getting logged out, have to keep logging back in, (in the interest of full disclosure :D )

Use 'https' protocol for the forum.

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Re: New Firmware for (T2/T3/T4/U4) 17/04/2018

Post by csutak40 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 14:39

My apologies... (I just switched the brain into gear :oops: ) Just noticed on the top of that error page a downloads tab. Having clicked on that, found the download
Have a new and improved question :D
Do I need to again not restore settings when I am re-installing the firmware?
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