EPGRefresh
EPGRefresh
I have installed EPGRefresh and will now wait to see how it goes. I found a web page showing how to configure it
https://sites.google.com/site/allaboutd ... epgrefresh
The instructions are given anyway in the process of installing but I find it useful to have either a printed or tablet version on hand. Looks good
https://sites.google.com/site/allaboutd ... epgrefresh
The instructions are given anyway in the process of installing but I find it useful to have either a printed or tablet version on hand. Looks good
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Re: EPGRefresh
Just a heads up that the hidden PiP option can cause some screen flickering, so it's probably not the best choice.
Re: EPGRefresh
That's good to know but I turned it off as I don't like PIP anyway under any condition
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Re: EPGRefresh
So what do the T3 options for load/save EPG every X hours do? I had assumed they did what this plugin does (ie. background scan the channels on any spare tuner). The default settings are 24 hours for both.
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Re: EPGRefresh
The help text for the Automatic refresh setting says:BikeMike wrote:So what do the T3 options for load/save EPG every X hours do? I had assumed they did what this plugin does (ie. background scan the channels on any spare tuner). The default settings are 24 hours for both.
[my emphasis]Allows the Beyonwiz T3 to read the stored EPG data regularly"
I don't think that it implies that it would scan the broadcast EPG data regularly.
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Re: EPGRefresh
There is also help on the "save", that may be where I got that impression (at work now so can't check exactly what it says).
So any recommendation for these settings... what do they do for me? Do I need the plugin? Do they work in conjunction with it?
Since first loaded, I have never noticed any gaps in the EPG, and there's probably a few channels I never watch; so I just assumed this was happening in the background.
So any recommendation for these settings... what do they do for me? Do I need the plugin? Do they work in conjunction with it?
Since first loaded, I have never noticed any gaps in the EPG, and there's probably a few channels I never watch; so I just assumed this was happening in the background.
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Re: EPGRefresh
It says:BikeMike wrote:There is also help on the "save", that may be where I got that impression (at work now so can't check exactly what it says).
Not sure that really suggests that the T3 will automatically scan channels to fill te EPG.Allows the Beyonwiz T3 to store the EPG data regularly.
My understanding is that the Automatic save is used for people who put their T3s into standby when not in use, rather than into shutdown. I think that the EPG is by default (Auto save OFF) only written to disk at shutdown or GUI Restart. Saving the EPG regularly would mean that if your T3 cgashed, when it restarted it would have an up-to-date copy of the EPG.BikeMike wrote:So any recommendation for these settings... what do they do for me?
I have no idea what Automatic refresh is intended to help with.
The plugin will ensure that the EPG is kept up to date even if you don't view some broadcasters. The Auto save is useful is you put the T3 into standby when not using it. If you do, then Auto save is useful whether you use the EPG scanner or not. In fact, it's probably slightly more useful if you don't use the scanner.BikeMike wrote:Do I need the plugin? Do they work in conjunction with it?
Since first loaded, I have never noticed any gaps in the EPG, and there's probably a few channels I never watch; so I just assumed this was happening in the background.
Digital TV services from one broadcaster, like ABC1, ABC2 & ABC News 24, are all sent on a single broadcast channel. The ABC sends its EPG data in another digital data stream in that broadcast channel. If you select any ABC service, you load the EPG for all the ABC's services.
So, for example, if you spend a little time on each of ABC2, SBS HD, Seven, GEM and One, you will have loaded the EPG data for all of the national and commercial networks.
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Re: EPGRefresh
I have been trying out EPGrefresh and run into a problem.
I have set it to do a 2 minute check on all channels in my Favourites bouquet (18 services) between 2am and 3am using a background scan and fake recording.
Lately I have been finding that there is a tuner locked to a channel 10 service, and noticed that there is a "Rec" indication up on the infobar despite there being no recordings in progress. I suspect that EPGrefresh is getting stuck and not releasing the tuner properly. The only way to unstick it that I have found is a full reboot.
Is anyone else seeing this behaviour?
I was originally just scanning one service on each provider seeing as there are only 5 providers to scan, but since I discovered that you can just add a single bouquet, that seemed like a neater configuration to use. No matter which way I configure the services to scan, I get the same stuck state on a channel 10 service.
I have set it to do a 2 minute check on all channels in my Favourites bouquet (18 services) between 2am and 3am using a background scan and fake recording.
Lately I have been finding that there is a tuner locked to a channel 10 service, and noticed that there is a "Rec" indication up on the infobar despite there being no recordings in progress. I suspect that EPGrefresh is getting stuck and not releasing the tuner properly. The only way to unstick it that I have found is a full reboot.
Is anyone else seeing this behaviour?
I was originally just scanning one service on each provider seeing as there are only 5 providers to scan, but since I discovered that you can just add a single bouquet, that seemed like a neater configuration to use. No matter which way I configure the services to scan, I get the same stuck state on a channel 10 service.
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Re: EPGRefresh
I am not using the fake recording option and EPGRefresh is working fine for me.
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Re: EPGRefresh
i found using fake recordings option to just hold open the task continualy.MrQuade wrote:I have been trying out EPGrefresh and run into a problem.
I have set it to do a 2 minute check on all channels in my Favourites bouquet (18 services) between 2am and 3am using a background scan and fake recording.
Lately I have been finding that there is a tuner locked to a channel 10 service, and noticed that there is a "Rec" indication up on the infobar despite there being no recordings in progress. I suspect that EPGrefresh is getting stuck and not releasing the tuner properly. The only way to unstick it that I have found is a full reboot.
Is anyone else seeing this behaviour?
I was originally just scanning one service on each provider seeing as there are only 5 providers to scan, but since I discovered that you can just add a single bouquet, that seemed like a neater configuration to use. No matter which way I configure the services to scan, I get the same stuck state on a channel 10 service.
When I changed it to use main display it worked ok.
Howeve last time I tried epgrefresh ( a week back) it just crashed .
Is there a newer build that works now ?
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Re: EPGRefresh
I just downloaded it and the version number in the config panel is 2.1.1. I know that crashes on HELP and YELLOW.craigh wrote:... Is there a newer build that works now ?
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Re: EPGRefresh
Ok I have downloaded and configured that version for the refresh between 3:30 and 4:30.prl wrote:I just downloaded it and the version number in the config panel is 2.1.1. I know that crashes on HELP and YELLOW.craigh wrote:... Is there a newer build that works now ?
Will check the log tomorrow and see if it had run.
And yes yellow button> run now crashes
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Re: EPGRefresh
I can confirm that the fake recording option caused the same lock up on my unit, with REC lit up on display, and had to reboot.
Perhaps for people still to download and use this plugin, someone could list their (working) settings?
Perhaps for people still to download and use this plugin, someone could list their (working) settings?
Re: EPGRefresh
I do avoid the Yellow button and run now as it does crash but aside from that it is stable and runs daily.
Settings are
120secs
PIP
Start 2.15
End 6.30
10 minute delay
All the advanced options all except for Force scan
Run Autotimer set to Background
Settings are
120secs
PIP
Start 2.15
End 6.30
10 minute delay
All the advanced options all except for Force scan
Run Autotimer set to Background
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Re: EPGRefresh
Thanks Gully
Re: EPGRefresh
I was about to ask about that damned flickering!peteru wrote:Just a heads up that the hidden PiP option can cause some screen flickering, so it's probably not the best choice.
Thanks for diagnosing it for me.
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Re: EPGRefresh
I installed EPGRefesh 3 days ago for a early morning activation. Each morning the T4Wiz is sitting there with the blue light on and locked up. I press the power button and it reboots with the big logo. There are no log files under home/root/logs dir. I have set it to picinpic and maid display but it still crashes.
So to test I set it up for a startup 5min later using 'Main Display' as method and put the Wiz in standby. I assumed the Wiz would come out of Standby so I could see what happens, but it does not show it on the Wiz's display, so I could not see what was happening. So then I ran the OpenWebif with 'Show Full Remote' without bringing it out of standby and of course it does not update the screen with what is showing on the Wiz. Bit once EPGRefresh started OpenWebIf started updating the screen, I could see it cycling through the channels (I have selected ch7, ch9, ch10, ch2, ch31 and sbs.)
Then it selected HDMI In (wtf?) sat there for a min. and locked up! So I assume that is what is causing the lockup?
Solutions?
thanks ken
So to test I set it up for a startup 5min later using 'Main Display' as method and put the Wiz in standby. I assumed the Wiz would come out of Standby so I could see what happens, but it does not show it on the Wiz's display, so I could not see what was happening. So then I ran the OpenWebif with 'Show Full Remote' without bringing it out of standby and of course it does not update the screen with what is showing on the Wiz. Bit once EPGRefresh started OpenWebIf started updating the screen, I could see it cycling through the channels (I have selected ch7, ch9, ch10, ch2, ch31 and sbs.)
Then it selected HDMI In (wtf?) sat there for a min. and locked up! So I assume that is what is causing the lockup?
Solutions?
thanks ken
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Re: EPGRefresh
The last setting to run autotimers on refresh has been known to cause problems. Turn that off.
Also, remove HDMI from the list of channels to refresh.
Also, remove HDMI from the list of channels to refresh.
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Re: EPGRefresh
That is the problem I think, I don't have that selected to refresh. But I will try turning off AutotimersAlso, remove HDMI from the list of channels to refresh.
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Re: EPGRefresh
From Live TV, BLUE button brings up 'Extensions' menu, with options EPGRefresh Configuration and EPGRefresh Refresh now available, Option EPGRefresh Refresh allows you to initiate the refresh manually - if you have it set to Main display you'll see it running, so you won't need to use OpenWebif.kenmax wrote:I installed EPGRefesh 3 days ago for a early morning activation. Each morning the T4Wiz is sitting there with the blue light on and locked up. I press the power button and it reboots with the big logo. There are no log files under home/root/logs dir. I have set it to picinpic and maid display but it still crashes.
So to test I set it up for a startup 5min later using 'Main Display' as method and put the Wiz in standby. I assumed the Wiz would come out of Standby so I could see what happens, but it does not show it on the Wiz's display, so I could not see what was happening. So then I ran the OpenWebif with 'Show Full Remote' without bringing it out of standby and of course it does not update the screen with what is showing on the Wiz. Bit once EPGRefresh started OpenWebIf started updating the screen, I could see it cycling through the channels (I have selected ch7, ch9, ch10, ch2, ch31 and sbs.)
Then it selected HDMI In (wtf?) sat there for a min. and locked up! So I assume that is what is causing the lockup?
Solutions?
thanks ken
When EPGRefresh is running, BLUE Extensions menu will show another option for EPGRefresh Pending services (or similar name) - if you choose that you'll be present with the services yet to be scanned.
If you press the Info button from within the EPGRefresh configuration screen, you'll be shown the last time it finished refreshing the services.
My config is shown below - note that I don't have it run AutoTimer as I remember reading it had issues doing so. The T4 will come out of shutdown/deep standby and go to standby, ready for EPGRefresh to start, about 10 mins before the scheduled time. EPGRefresh will run at some stage, and eventually the T4 will shutdown, I have 6 services in my EPGRefresh bouquet, with a scan of 60 seconds - but I've seen the T4 take approx. 14 mins longer before shutting down. I'm guessing the refresh starts sometime between the nominated time window
Sometimes the T4 will have booted up, but EPGRefresh will not have run, and the T4 will be in running mode. Today was an example of that, the T4 was recording from a 06:40 timer, it hadn't run since yesterday, and I then saw EPGRefresh kick in once the timer had concluded at 07:24, take its 6 mins and the T4 then shutdown. Using OpenWebif's Box Info, I saw the T4 had come out of shutdown before the due start time.
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Re: EPGRefresh
Just tested again with
done that
Again it switched to 'HDMI IN' and crashed!
The last setting to run autotimers on refresh has been known to cause problems. Turn that off.
done that
Again it switched to 'HDMI IN' and crashed!
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Re: EPGRefresh
At what stage does it crash? Set it to use main display and run it manually from the 'Extensions' menu (as detailed in my previous above).kenmax wrote:Again it switched to 'HDMI IN' and crashed!
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Sorry Grumps, didn't see your post right away. Ok, did what you said and shows 'Following services... as per screenshot. I have not selected HDMI in at any time in setup! (I have selected ch7, ch9, ch10, ch2, ch31 and sbs.) as per previous post. Wiz has locked up again with the last screen showing the image.
I originally was using OpenWebIf because when I ran it manually it was not a problem, but it was a problem this time!
I originally was using OpenWebIf because when I ran it manually it was not a problem, but it was a problem this time!
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Re: EPGRefresh
Yeah, I can see it lists HDMI IN. Hmm, can you create a new bouquet just for EPGRefresh use, containing the 6 services, and see if it still crashes?
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Re: EPGRefresh
ok, did a full reboot, ran EPGRefresh manually again and it got through without crashing! I still want to know where 'HDMI IN' is coming from.
I will test later when my recordings have finished from standby and see what happens!
I will test later when my recordings have finished from standby and see what happens!
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Re: EPGRefresh
@kenmax - Did you ever find the cause to the lock up and the need to press the power button?kenmax wrote:I installed EPGRefesh 3 days ago for a early morning activation. Each morning the T4Wiz is sitting there with the blue light on and locked up. I press the power button and it reboots with the big logo. There are no log files under home/root/logs dir.
thanks ken
Thanks,
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Re: EPGRefresh
No, couldn't resolve it so I just set up 5 Zap timers, one for each service, named them z1, z2 etc to keep them at the bottom of the daily timers.
It's doing the job so I can live with it.
It's doing the job so I can live with it.
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Re: EPGRefresh
Only new to my T4. So what's the difference between a zap timer and an ordinary timer?kenmax wrote:No, couldn't resolve it so I just set up 5 Zap timers, one for each service, named them z1, z2 etc to keep them at the bottom of the daily timers.
It's doing the job so I can live with it.
Greg
Re: EPGRefresh
"Zap" means "change channel".ghines wrote: Only new to my T4. So what's the difference between a zap timer and an ordinary timer?
So a "Zap timer" is a "change channel timer". Perhaps "View-only timer" might be a more common term for it
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Re: EPGRefresh
Thank you.MrQuade wrote:"Zap" means "change channel".ghines wrote: Only new to my T4. So what's the difference between a zap timer and an ordinary timer?
So a "Zap timer" is a "change channel timer". Perhaps "View-only timer" might be a more common term for it
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Re: EPGRefresh
"Zap" is used in many parts of the UI to mean "change channel".
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Re: EPGRefresh
So I could setup zap timers to take the place of EPGRefresh, if I can't get it working??prl wrote:"Zap" is used in many parts of the UI to mean "change channel".
Do zap timers also power ON the T4 from shutdown?
How can you turn OFF the T4 after your zap timers as the After Event is not there for a Zap Timer?
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Re: EPGRefresh
I suggest using a normal record timer rather than a zap as it will do the auto shutdown as you ask. If you don't want all of them hanging around, you can set the custom location to the trash and they will record directly in there and then get cleaned up.
It's best to make sure they don't overlap in time so they only take up one tuner.
It's best to make sure they don't overlap in time so they only take up one tuner.
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Re: EPGRefresh
That's interesting, I set them up using Timer through Open Webif and that has a entry for 'After Event', being Auto/Shutdown etc.
I will have to take note if the Wiz is in 'Standby' in the morning.
I will have to take note if the Wiz is in 'Standby' in the morning.
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Re: EPGRefresh
@kenmax - Let me know what you find in the morning if you can.kenmax wrote:That's interesting, I set them up using Timer through Open Webif and that has a entry for 'After Event', being Auto/Shutdown etc.
I will have to take note if the Wiz is in 'Standby' in the morning.
Greg
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Understand. Is this better then having a sleep timer set to shutdown after the last zap timer?simoncasey wrote:I suggest using a normal record timer rather than a zap as it will do the auto shutdown as you ask. If you don't want all of them hanging around, you can set the custom location to the trash and they will record directly in there and then get cleaned up.
It's best to make sure they don't overlap in time so they only take up one tuner.
So, if I setup non overlapping non zap timers what sort of time should I have between each and which one(s) have the after event set to Auto?
Thanks,
Greg
Re: EPGRefresh
I wonder if I may wade into this discussion for a bit...
I am running EPGrefresh 2.1.4 on my T4 with latest beta software.
I'm not having any issues, it's working a treat. I've had a full guide for all channels since I set it up...I know others seem to have issues with fake recordings, but I'm using it perfectly.
My settings for EPGrefresh are as follows from top to bottom...
Refresh automatically on
Duration 120
Auto start earliest 3:00am
Auto start latest 5:00am
Delay 10mins
Refresh EPG using fake recordings
Show advanced on
Show setup in extension menu off
Show EPGrefresh start now in extension menu on
Show pop up when refresh starts and ends on
Wake up from standby for EPG refresh on
Force scan if receiver in use off
Shutdown after EPG refresh on
Inherit services from auto timer off
Run auto timer after refresh background only
Added to this, I have a bouquet called "Perth Terrestrial" with all the channels I want in it and all those shopping channels removed, all padded to the correct LCNs etc.
Under Edit Services in EPGRefresh (blue button) I have it set to scan zero channels and only that bouquet.
It works perfectly, manual run or automatic run.
Add to this I have automatic EPG refresh set to 3 hours (under Setup -> TV -> EPG settings) as well as automatic save every 1 hour.
I have no complaints...
Except 1... It's only a teny tiny one I promise...
In EPGrefresh, the setting labelled "shut down after EPG refresh" has the description in the help as "this setting controls whether the receiver should be set to standby after refresh is completed."
I always leave my unit in standby, ie not deep standby.
I'm not sure whether or not that description and setting means standby or deep standby (shutdown).
I ask because since I've been back in the last 2 days I've noticed that the unit has been deep shutdown when I wake up in the morning, so EPGrefresh is clearly shutting the wiz down and not putting it back to standby.
So which is the EPGrefresh setting actually meant to do? Standby or deep (shutdown)...
Don't know if that's a bug or meant to be like that. When EPGrefresh kicks off its in standby, not deep standby. Wake up in the morning, it's totally off with single blue light on in the corner of the front display.
Hmmmm...
Other wise very very happy with its behaviour.
Mark
I am running EPGrefresh 2.1.4 on my T4 with latest beta software.
I'm not having any issues, it's working a treat. I've had a full guide for all channels since I set it up...I know others seem to have issues with fake recordings, but I'm using it perfectly.
My settings for EPGrefresh are as follows from top to bottom...
Refresh automatically on
Duration 120
Auto start earliest 3:00am
Auto start latest 5:00am
Delay 10mins
Refresh EPG using fake recordings
Show advanced on
Show setup in extension menu off
Show EPGrefresh start now in extension menu on
Show pop up when refresh starts and ends on
Wake up from standby for EPG refresh on
Force scan if receiver in use off
Shutdown after EPG refresh on
Inherit services from auto timer off
Run auto timer after refresh background only
Added to this, I have a bouquet called "Perth Terrestrial" with all the channels I want in it and all those shopping channels removed, all padded to the correct LCNs etc.
Under Edit Services in EPGRefresh (blue button) I have it set to scan zero channels and only that bouquet.
It works perfectly, manual run or automatic run.
Add to this I have automatic EPG refresh set to 3 hours (under Setup -> TV -> EPG settings) as well as automatic save every 1 hour.
I have no complaints...
Except 1... It's only a teny tiny one I promise...
In EPGrefresh, the setting labelled "shut down after EPG refresh" has the description in the help as "this setting controls whether the receiver should be set to standby after refresh is completed."
I always leave my unit in standby, ie not deep standby.
I'm not sure whether or not that description and setting means standby or deep standby (shutdown).
I ask because since I've been back in the last 2 days I've noticed that the unit has been deep shutdown when I wake up in the morning, so EPGrefresh is clearly shutting the wiz down and not putting it back to standby.
So which is the EPGrefresh setting actually meant to do? Standby or deep (shutdown)...
Don't know if that's a bug or meant to be like that. When EPGrefresh kicks off its in standby, not deep standby. Wake up in the morning, it's totally off with single blue light on in the corner of the front display.
Hmmmm...
Other wise very very happy with its behaviour.
Mark
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Re: EPGRefresh
Warkus. You should simply turn off the "Shutdown after EPG refresh" option in your case.
If you set your T4 to be in standby rather than "deep standby"/shutdown, then your T4 doesn't ever need to "wake up" to do its fake recordings. All recording operations just happen when in standby, so just leave the box be .
If you set your T4 to be in standby rather than "deep standby"/shutdown, then your T4 doesn't ever need to "wake up" to do its fake recordings. All recording operations just happen when in standby, so just leave the box be .
There is no need for the "EPG refresh" setting. I am not sure if that is at all helpful. As far as I understand, all that does is read the EPG cached from disk and copy it to memory, so all you are doing is overwriting any updates that may have come on OTA since the last save.warkus wrote:Add to this I have automatic EPG refresh set to 3 hours (under Setup -> TV -> EPG settings) as well as automatic save every 1 hour.
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Re: EPGRefresh
The other setting you could change is using the bouquet for Edit Services.
With that it will I expect go to every service included whereas it really only needs to go to one ABC service, one channel 9 service, etc.
Don't expect it causes a problem except if you were to need your Beyonwiz it would be busy much longer, eg if you use Run Now.
With that it will I expect go to every service included whereas it really only needs to go to one ABC service, one channel 9 service, etc.
Don't expect it causes a problem except if you were to need your Beyonwiz it would be busy much longer, eg if you use Run Now.
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Re: EPGRefresh
I've created a bouquet specifically for EPGRefresh use that contains only a subset of the LCNs required to cover the broadcasters - as you say, it cuts down the wait time in the event of a 'run now' scenario.Gully wrote:The other setting you could change is using the bouquet for Edit Services.
With that it will I expect go to every service included whereas it really only needs to go to one ABC service, one channel 9 service, etc.
Don't expect it causes a problem except if you were to need your Beyonwiz it would be busy much longer, eg if you use Run Now.
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Re: EPGRefresh
Zap timers with timer to shutdown work fine. I chose the recording timers as I wanted it to run during the day after the channels had updated the epg for the day but I didn't want the tv changing channels in case I was watching it. Also, I wouldn't necessarily want it to switch off at the end.ghines wrote:Understand. Is this better then having a sleep timer set to shutdown after the last zap timer?simoncasey wrote:I suggest using a normal record timer rather than a zap as it will do the auto shutdown as you ask. If you don't want all of them hanging around, you can set the custom location to the trash and they will record directly in there and then get cleaned up.
It's best to make sure they don't overlap in time so they only take up one tuner.
So, if I setup non overlapping non zap timers what sort of time should I have between each and which one(s) have the after event set to Auto?
Thanks,
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Re: EPGRefresh
Thanks heaps for the replies everyone.
Gully, surprising but it doesn't, it only goes to the main station of each subset, I've timed it. It must be part of the plugin to ignore additional channels on the same LCN. I thought as much like you, and tested it both with a bouquet containing exactly one of each channel set, and then separately with the entire Perth bouquet, it made no difference, that's why I have the pop ups enabled so I could test time wise how long it took from start to finish. It's identical time for either bouquet scan so I deleted the one with only one of each channel in it as there wasn't any point to having it.
Mrquade, thanks for the tip, yep I gathered the EPG read wasn't necessary, so I turned it off. What I found in doing so is that when powering on from deep standby, it wasn't populating the EPG. Even though the EPG.dat file was there, it didn't seem to read it, so I turned it back on, and initially set it to 1 hour, but changed it to 3 hours, and low and behold when powering on from deep standby it populated the EPG again entirely. Go figure...?!??!?! I can only assume that if you have it set to auto read EPG for any time duration at all, don't think it matters if it's 1 hour or 24 hours, it will then read the EPG.dat file on power up up and then subsequently read it again at x invertal - whatever you have it set to. I'm not sure really, I just know that turning it off resulted in the EPG not being loaded on boot from deep standby.
As for the EPGrefresh tip about the not need to to shut it down after it completes - fantastic, I'll test at now. Much appreciated.
Thanks for all your feedback everyone!
Mark
Gully, surprising but it doesn't, it only goes to the main station of each subset, I've timed it. It must be part of the plugin to ignore additional channels on the same LCN. I thought as much like you, and tested it both with a bouquet containing exactly one of each channel set, and then separately with the entire Perth bouquet, it made no difference, that's why I have the pop ups enabled so I could test time wise how long it took from start to finish. It's identical time for either bouquet scan so I deleted the one with only one of each channel in it as there wasn't any point to having it.
Mrquade, thanks for the tip, yep I gathered the EPG read wasn't necessary, so I turned it off. What I found in doing so is that when powering on from deep standby, it wasn't populating the EPG. Even though the EPG.dat file was there, it didn't seem to read it, so I turned it back on, and initially set it to 1 hour, but changed it to 3 hours, and low and behold when powering on from deep standby it populated the EPG again entirely. Go figure...?!??!?! I can only assume that if you have it set to auto read EPG for any time duration at all, don't think it matters if it's 1 hour or 24 hours, it will then read the EPG.dat file on power up up and then subsequently read it again at x invertal - whatever you have it set to. I'm not sure really, I just know that turning it off resulted in the EPG not being loaded on boot from deep standby.
As for the EPGrefresh tip about the not need to to shut it down after it completes - fantastic, I'll test at now. Much appreciated.
Thanks for all your feedback everyone!
Mark
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Re: EPGRefresh
It was as expected, Wiz is in Standby mode.ghines
@kenmax - Let me know what you find in the morning if you can.
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Re: EPGRefresh
Hi Markwarkus wrote:Gully, surprising but it doesn't,
That is surprising but good to know. Thanks.
Cheers
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Re: EPGRefresh
Just installed the latest firmware on my T3, and can't install the epgrefresh plugin. I get the error below in the attached screenshot. Any idea what it means?
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Re: EPGRefresh
Have you tried to do a reboot and try and install againblonk wrote:Just installed the latest firmware on my T3, and can't install the epgrefresh plugin. I get the error below in the attached screenshot. Any idea what it means?
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Re: EPGRefresh
Hi Blonk,
Your T3 is actively checking for updates in the background. Wait a few moments the task will complete and the lock will be removed.
Regards,
Ian.
Your T3 is actively checking for updates in the background. Wait a few moments the task will complete and the lock will be removed.
Regards,
Ian.
Re: EPGRefresh
A second reboot seemed to have sorted it, thanks guys.
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Re: EPGRefresh
I've just installed the EPG Refresh Plugin (V 2.14) and find a line missing compared to Warkus' list on October 31 2015 - this line: Refresh EPG using fake recordings
Refresh EPG using is not an option, even in advanced options.
From reading other post it seems necessary to change this from main channel to fake recording.
How do I get around this bug?
cheers
Mike
Refresh EPG using is not an option, even in advanced options.
From reading other post it seems necessary to change this from main channel to fake recording.
How do I get around this bug?
cheers
Mike
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