AutoTimer Concerns
AutoTimer Concerns
Hi all,
I recently asked this question but the answer got deleted, along with the question, during the recent website issues. So I will ask the question again.
I have an Autotimer setup for a program on Channel 7. This gets one entry in the Timers as I would expect however it is being recorded a couple of times. Could this be because Channel 7 appears in a couple of Bouquets? There is no Bouquet restriction in the Autotimer.
TIA
Greg
I recently asked this question but the answer got deleted, along with the question, during the recent website issues. So I will ask the question again.
I have an Autotimer setup for a program on Channel 7. This gets one entry in the Timers as I would expect however it is being recorded a couple of times. Could this be because Channel 7 appears in a couple of Bouquets? There is no Bouquet restriction in the Autotimer.
TIA
Greg
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Re: AutoTimer Concerns
Do you mean that there's only one timer showing for the AutoTimer in the AutoTimers list, or only one entry in the Timers list (TIMER from live TV)?
If the latter, was that at the time the AutoTimer created the timers, or at about the time the recordings were made? Do you still have the completed timer(s) in the timer list? Is there still only one, or are there several? Were all the recordings started at the same time, or at different times?
A timer (no matter how created, including from an AutoTimer) can only record on a single service. It doesn't matter how many times that service appears in bouquets. All the recordings we make (using IceTV-generated timers) on our in-use T4 use services that appear in three bouquets, but there's only ever one timer created.
What is your setting of MENU>Channels>AutoTimer, MENU>Setup>Guess existing timer based on begin/end? It's strongly recommended to turn it off, because having it on is known to cause multiple recording problems.
If the latter, was that at the time the AutoTimer created the timers, or at about the time the recordings were made? Do you still have the completed timer(s) in the timer list? Is there still only one, or are there several? Were all the recordings started at the same time, or at different times?
A timer (no matter how created, including from an AutoTimer) can only record on a single service. It doesn't matter how many times that service appears in bouquets. All the recordings we make (using IceTV-generated timers) on our in-use T4 use services that appear in three bouquets, but there's only ever one timer created.
What is your setting of MENU>Channels>AutoTimer, MENU>Setup>Guess existing timer based on begin/end? It's strongly recommended to turn it off, because having it on is known to cause multiple recording problems.
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Re: AutoTimer Concerns
Hi Greg,
Does your T4 still have the completed timer? If so, can you post its log entries, or copy them from \\BEYONWIZT4\Root\etc\enigma2\timers.xml
Cheers
Geoff
Does your T4 still have the completed timer? If so, can you post its log entries, or copy them from \\BEYONWIZT4\Root\etc\enigma2\timers.xml
Cheers
Geoff
Re: AutoTimer Concerns
Unfortunately not, I have done a clean up. Can wait until the next multiple recordings and will then post the result. What are you looking for??Grumpy_Geoff wrote:Hi Greg,
Does your T4 still have the completed timer? If so, can you post its log entries, or copy them from \\BEYONWIZT4\Root\etc\enigma2\timers.xml
Cheers
Geoff
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Re: AutoTimer Concerns
To see when each recording began (as what you see in the media list isn't necessarily the actual recording start time).ghines wrote:... What are you looking for??
Also to see if there were EPG time changes, as that can also initiate another copy of the recording (*_001, *_002 e.t.c.)
Re: AutoTimer Concerns
Thanks. We don't have to wait long as the timer is for tomorrow night.Grumpy_Geoff wrote:To see when each recording began (as what you see in the media list isn't necessarily the actual recording start time).ghines wrote:... What are you looking for??
Also to see if there were EPG time changes, as that can also initiate another copy of the recording (*_001, *_002 e.t.c.)
I'm assuming that I should not get multiple recordings if the same channel is in several bouquets. Yes/No?
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Re: AutoTimer Concerns
Yes, as far as I know.ghines wrote:...
I'm assuming that I should not get multiple recordings if the same channel is in several bouquets. Yes/No?
Can you extract the AutoTimer entry or grab an OpenWebif screenshot of it as per this post
I'll then set up an A/T for it here as a test
Cheers
Geoff
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Re: AutoTimer Concerns
It could be because channel 7 is simulcast on a number of channels 7,70 and 71. So you may be getting those and would explain the issue if it only happens on channel 7. Setting a bouquet as well as a channel would fix it.
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Re: AutoTimer Concerns
Will this do?Grumpy_Geoff wrote:Can you extract the AutoTimer entry or grab an OpenWebif screenshot of it as per this post
Autotimer.xml
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<timer name="Wanted - Season Premiere" match="Wanted" enabled="yes" from="20:00" to="22:00" searchCase="sensitive" overrideAlternatives="1">
<serviceref>1:0:1:520:502:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</serviceref> <!-- 7 Digital -->
<afterevent>shutdown</afterevent>
<exclude where="dayofweek">weekend</exclude>
</timer>
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<timer name="Wanted - Season Premiere" match="Wanted" enabled="yes" from="20:00" to="22:00" searchCase="sensitive" overrideAlternatives="1">
<serviceref>1:0:1:520:502:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</serviceref> <!-- 7 Digital -->
<afterevent>shutdown</afterevent>
<exclude where="dayofweek">weekend</exclude>
</timer>
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Re: AutoTimer Concerns
The autotimer in ghines posted example has an explicit serviceref. The 7 Digital "clones" all have different servicerefs.simoncasey wrote:It could be because channel 7 is simulcast on a number of channels 7,70 and 71. So you may be getting those and would explain the issue if it only happens on channel 7. Setting a bouquet as well as a channel would fix it.
E.g. for Sydney (which I think is where ghines is, from the Seven serviceref):
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1:0:1:520:502:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0: 7 Digital
1:0:1:521:502:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0: 7 Digital 1
1:0:1:524:502:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0: 7 Digital
I rather think that having "Guess existing timer based on begin/end" enabled is the culprit, but there's been no confirmation of te setting from ghines.
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Re: AutoTimer Concerns
Hi Greg,ghines wrote:Will this do?Grumpy_Geoff wrote:Can you extract the AutoTimer entry or grab an OpenWebif screenshot of it as per this post
Autotimer.xmlCode: Select all
<timer name="Wanted - Season Premiere" match="Wanted" enabled="yes" from="20:00" to="22:00" searchCase="sensitive" overrideAlternatives="1"> <serviceref>1:0:1:520:502:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</serviceref> <!-- 7 Digital --> <afterevent>shutdown</afterevent> <exclude where="dayofweek">weekend</exclude> </timer>
How did "Wanted" go?
My test AutoTimer generated the expected timer, and that timer had no issues producing a single recording with start time 20:55. I used the same criteria as you had, apart from my 'Custom offset - offset before recording' to differentiate this from my other copy of "Wanted" that is from my IceTV series recording.
Below is the AutoTimer definition, and the resultant timer execution log, and recording files.
Cheers
Geoff
Re: AutoTimer Concerns
You would not believe it Geoff. Only recorded once last night, and that's the first time it only recorded once since the series started. The series is finished now so I guess we will just have to wait until something happens again. Thanks for all your effort.Grumpy_Geoff wrote:Hi Greg,ghines wrote:Will this do?Grumpy_Geoff wrote:Can you extract the AutoTimer entry or grab an OpenWebif screenshot of it as per this post
Autotimer.xmlCode: Select all
<timer name="Wanted - Season Premiere" match="Wanted" enabled="yes" from="20:00" to="22:00" searchCase="sensitive" overrideAlternatives="1"> <serviceref>1:0:1:520:502:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</serviceref> <!-- 7 Digital --> <afterevent>shutdown</afterevent> <exclude where="dayofweek">weekend</exclude> </timer>
How did "Wanted" go?
My test AutoTimer generated the expected timer, and that timer had no issues producing a single recording with start time 20:55. I used the same criteria as you had, apart from my 'Custom offset - offset before recording' to differentiate this from my other copy of "Wanted" that is from my IceTV series recording.
Below is the AutoTimer definition, and the resultant timer execution log, and recording files.
Cheers
Geoff
Greg
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