No multi-channel audio on transferred file

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No multi-channel audio on transferred file

Post by bonson » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:48

Hi

When I record and play back shows with multi-channel audio from HD stations such as GEM they play with multi-channel sound. However when I use Yardwiz to copy them to my PC the resulting ts file has only 2 channel audio. Can someone please explain why this is.

My setup is a Beyonwiz DP-P1 (with 350 firmware) connected to a Denon AVR-1311 via HDMI which is in turn connected to a Panasonic 50" Plasma TV via HDMI.

The Beyonwiz has the following audio settings
Audio format : Passthrough
Analog Output : Enable
AAC Output : Passthrough
Dolby D Output : Passthrough
AC3 Audio Delay : Disable

The audio section of the Mediainfo for the resulting ts file is below

Audio
ID : 697 (0x2B9)
Menu ID : 10 (0xA)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 6
Duration : 1h 34mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -644ms
Stream size : 304 MiB (5%)
Language : English

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Post by Gully » Wed Mar 13, 2013 13:10

It must be something with what you are using to play it with as the copied file has all the same information as the file on the Wiz.

Either that or your amp is creating multichannel from a 2 channel source.
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Post by prl » Wed Mar 13, 2013 13:22

I can personally guarantee as its author that getWizPnP (the program that actually does the recording copying for YARDWiz) does absolutely nothing to the audio in the file.
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Post by netmask » Wed Mar 13, 2013 14:10

What device are you playing the transferred TS file from and the audio settings?

The transfer process does nothing to the content of the transmitted and recorded file on the BW.

The only way to remove elements from the transmission stream mpeg file is to transfer it sic to a computer and then demux it in a program like ProjectX etc.

It is probably the setting in the Denon and or the playback device you are using for the transferred TS file.
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Post by IanSav » Wed Mar 13, 2013 16:30

Hi Bonson,

The MediaInfo extract you provided indicates that the media file is encoded in the AC3 format but only contains two active audio channels. It appears that you were expecting more than two channels but in that sample there are only two channels defined/available.

Just because AC3 or Dolby Digital audio is used on a broadcast channel does *NOT* mean that all the possible audio channels will be used. That is, AC3 or Dolby Digital does not mean there will always be 5.1 channels of sound.

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Post by brianh » Thu Mar 14, 2013 07:30

....don't forget that most AV receivers have a setting to "create" multi-channel sound from 2 channels... playing back on other devices that only play the two channels would make it seem like something had gone missing...?
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Post by bonson » Mon Mar 18, 2013 07:43

Thanks for all the info and suggestions. As you've indicated it must be related to the AV receiver "creating" multi-channel sound. When I have a chance I'll dig out the manual to find out under what conditions it does this.

Thanks again.

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