WizTV - Weather Radar images

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 15:28

Good to see that someone has added the radr images into the weather section of WizTV.

However, even on my 50" screen, the displayed image is small (and possibly set ona 254km radius). Is there an option to reduce the radius to 128km or use the Zoom key to zoom in the image? I tried the usual suspects - Zoom key, 0 key, but no good???

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 17:44

diesel wrote:Good to see that someone has added the radr images into the weather section of WizTV.

However, even on my 50" screen, the displayed image is small (and possibly set ona 254km radius). Is there an option to reduce the radius to 128km or use the Zoom key to zoom in the image? I tried the usual suspects - Zoom key, 0 key, but no good???

The available radar radii are 64km, 128km, 256km and 512km. 64km is not available for all radar sites. Some sites have other data, like cumulative rainfall and Doppler wind speed.

The bitmaps for all the images are all the same sizes. The 512km images are composites from multiple sites (none of the weather radars has that range).

You can have a look at what's available on the BOM radar page.

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:24

The 128km looks the best but I'll need to check what is on WizTV ATM to see what that is showing....just can't check ATM as Mrs diesel is watching a show...

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:39

It's the 128km image for all locations. Directly retrieved from BOM. Any limitations are at the source. Trying to view these images on a display with a resolution lower than 720p is pretty pointless if you want to read the text.

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:46

Yeah, just checked and it is the 128km so I guess it's as good as it gets...zoom function will have to come from TV menu, not BW menu, unless you can add that in Peter?

DaveR · Post by **DaveR** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 00:12

diesel wrote: I tried the usual suspects - Zoom key, 0 key, but no good???

I tried them too, to see if i could change to the next/prev image.

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 07:19

I had a look at the Weather pages for the first time in a while, and I found there's radar for Hobart, there's radar for Darwin, but (did I really expect otherwise?) no radar for Canberra, and the way it's been organised, really no place to put it.

I also agree about the screen layout, it's become ugly and cluttered in the top level of the weather pages.

Why not put the radar button on the corresponding forecast page(s)? That way, all radars could be accessible, not just those of the state capitals and the capital of the least populous mainland territory. With the buttons on the forecast pages also there'd be room for all the radar ranges, and perhaps even some of the other services like the Doppler wind and cumulative rainfall.

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:31

prl wrote:Why not put the radar button on the corresponding forecast page(s)? That way, all radars could be accessible, not just those of the state capitals and the capital of the least populous mainland territory.

I like that idea

aussea · Post by **aussea** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 20:58

diesel wrote:Yeah, just checked and it is the 128km so I guess it's as good as it gets...zoom function will have to come from TV menu, not BW menu, unless you can add that in Peter?

Weather Radar. What a great enhancement to the functionality of WizTV. Thanks to all for the inclusion.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 21:06

aussea wrote:...
Weather Radar. What a great enhancement to the functionality of WizTV. Thanks to all for the inclusion.

Agreed. Provided you can actually access the weather radar for where you are.

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 20:15

diesel wrote:
prl wrote:Why not put the radar button on the corresponding forecast page(s)? That way, all radars could be accessible, not just those of the state capitals and the capital of the least populous mainland territory.
I like that idea

Any news if this change may make through?

aussea · Post by **aussea** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 07:57

Hope this is not one of those bugs that only I have on my P2, but the Sydney radar image on WizTV is not updating. The last image is dated June 4! Just after the 301 firmware upgrade.

Any ideas? Previously reported on this forum somewhere? I was waiting to see something pop up on this.

Cheers.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:15

Hi Aussea,

aussea wrote:Hope this is not one of those bugs that only I have on my P2, but the Sydney radar image on WizTV is not updating. The last image is dated June 4! Just after the 301 firmware upgrade.

Any ideas? Previously reported on this forum somewhere? I was waiting to see something pop up on this.

The contents of WizTV are generally unrelated to the firmware. A problem in one does not imply a bug in the other. Think of WizTV like a web browser. Most of the time the problems are in broken web pages.

Regards,
Ian.

hawk_eyes · Post by **hawk_eyes** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 13:10

Any chance that the radar "loop" can be added? It's very useful when you can tell the movement and speed of the rain in a few seconds rather than waiting 10 minutes for updates.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 17:18

hawk_eyes wrote:Any chance that the radar "loop" can be added? It's very useful when you can tell the movement and speed of the rain in a few seconds rather than waiting 10 minutes for updates.

The "loop" imakes are just a series of radar images. The underlying WizTV support doesn't have the ability to display them as a loop.

Displaying the radar "loop" was proposed almost as soon as WizTV started carrying weatg=her information. The same thing prevents it now as it did then.

aussea · Post by **aussea** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 16:57

IanSav wrote:Hi Aussea,
aussea wrote:Hope this is not one of those bugs that only I have on my P2, but the Sydney radar image on WizTV is not updating. The last image is dated June 4! Just after the 301 firmware upgrade.

Any ideas? Previously reported on this forum somewhere? I was waiting to see something pop up on this.
The contents of WizTV are generally unrelated to the firmware. A problem in one does not imply a bug in the other. Think of WizTV like a web browser. Most of the time the problems are in broken web pages.

Regards,
Ian.

Ian, I am aware that what I am seeing via WizTV is akin to a browser view. What I am trying to point out is that I am amazed that no one else is reporting this. So, I assume it is specific to my Bey (again), much like when I initially reported A/V input issues as a result of the installation of firmware .280 way back when.

What would be good to know is if anyone else is getting the same image for Sydney rather than any updated one? That is all. Perhaps its a WizTV website call to solve. Could there be a resolution given that online services and the VIP club seem to be an emerging thrust for the Beyonwiz crew? Is no one uploading the Sydney radar image on this forum? Cheers. Peter.

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 23:16

Is the link for Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane radars not updating???

These all seem to show images from June 19 or June 21.

aza0 · Post by **aza0** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:21

The last radar image for Adelaide is 05/06/09, can anyone else confirm this?

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:51

aza0 wrote:The last radar image for Adelaide is 05/06/09, can anyone else confirm this?

looks like they have been all updated to today - thanks guys

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 14:09

Hi,

I just checked the Melbourne radar image a few minutes ago. It was up to date.

Regards,
Ian.

aza0 · Post by **aza0** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 16:46

Im still 05/06/09 for Adelaide. Can someone else have a look for me?

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 17:30

Hi Aza0,

aza0 wrote:Im still 05/06/09 for Adelaide. Can someone else have a look for me?

I just checked the Adelaide radar image for you. It is dated 11/07/2009.

Regards,
Ian.

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 22:31

IanSav wrote:Hi Aza0,
aza0 wrote:Im still 05/06/09 for Adelaide. Can someone else have a look for me?
I just checked the Adelaide radar image for you. It is dated 11/07/2009.

Same in Sydney - Adelaide is showing today's images

aza0 · Post by **aza0** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:25

Thanks guy's, mine still has not updated. Is there something I can do to kick it in the guts?

Everything else has updated except for my radar?

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 16:45

Hi Aza0,

Do you have a proxy server on your network, or does your ISP use a proxy? Perhaps the old data is being cached along the way.

Regards,
Ian.

aza0 · Post by **aza0** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 19:58

I wouldn't know sorry. it seems weird that it would only cache the Adelaide radar but everything else is fine.

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 23:14

Try rebooting everything that the wiz is connected to - PC/BW/Modem/Router etc

aussea · Post by **aussea** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 14:40

diesel wrote:Is the link for Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane radars not updating???

These all seem to show images from June 19 or June 21.

My Sydney radar image has been "stuck" since 4/6/09 which kinda coincided with my firmware upgrade as I previously reported..

Well others may have the problem too it seems. Don't feel so bad now!

aussea · Post by **aussea** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 13:47

IanSav wrote:Hi Aza0,

Do you have a proxy server on your network, or does your ISP use a proxy? Perhaps the old data is being cached along the way.

Regards,
Ian.

Is there a way of getting at the cache for WIZTV somehow and flushing it out much like flushing the ICETV and service cache?

I have tried rebooting everything that the wiz is connected to - PC/BW/Modem/Router etc. I have also deleted the device on WIZTV and recreated it. To no avail. The outdated Sydney weather radar image remains! Seems coincidental that this occurred straight after the firmware upgrade, but then very few people are reporting it. I know this is not mission critical, but any fix would be appreciated. Thanks all.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 14:02

Hi Aussea,

aussea wrote:Is there a way of getting at the cache for WIZTV somehow and flushing it out much like flushing the ICETV and service cache?

I have tried rebooting everything that the wiz is connected to - PC/BW/Modem/Router etc. I have also deleted the device on WIZTV and recreated it. To no avail. The outdated Sydney weather radar image remains! Seems coincidental that this occurred straight after the firmware upgrade, but then very few people are reporting it. I know this is not mission critical, but any fix would be appreciated. Thanks all.

I don't think the Beyonwiz caches any of the WizTV data. Have you contacted your ISP to see if they have a cache on your connection? Is your ISP running any Internet filtering trials? If so, perhaps this feed has fallen foul of the sensors.

Regards,
Ian.

aussea · Post by **aussea** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 14:11

[/quote]
I don't think the Beyonwiz caches any of the WizTV data. Have you contacted your ISP to see if they have a cache on your connection? Is your ISP running any Internet filtering trials? If so, perhaps this feed has fallen foul of the sensors.

Regards,
Ian.[/quote]

Thanks Ian. I am not quite sure what 3 Mobile Broadband is doing in that cache regard, but I will check. Why oh why would they choose to filter a weather radar image feed is beyond me, but you never know! WIZTV is working well here with the exception of the damm radar image. Story of my life and Beyonwiz lol.

Yes, the funny thing is that the other city radar maps are updating, with the exception of the Sydney radar image. Thanks for the advice. Cheers.

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 14:52

Just had a look to see what was happening and will Sydney is current, Melbourne shows a blank page. So no idea what is happening..

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 20:17

aussea wrote: Thanks Ian. I am not quite sure what 3 Mobile Broadband is doing in that cache regard, but I will check.

Yes, the funny thing is that the other city radar maps are updating, with the exception of the Sydney radar image. Thanks for the advice. Cheers.

Have you tried accessing the BOM radar page via a PC connected to the 3 Mobile Broadband connection to see if it sees an updated image??

aussea · Post by **aussea** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 08:37

diesel wrote:
aussea wrote: Thanks Ian. I am not quite sure what 3 Mobile Broadband is doing in that cache regard, but I will check.

Yes, the funny thing is that the other city radar maps are updating, with the exception of the Sydney radar image. Thanks for the advice. Cheers.
Have you tried accessing the BOM radar page via a PC connected to the 3 Mobile Broadband connection to see if it sees an updated image??

The BOM radar images update flawlessly on my two laptops using the 3 Mobile Broadband connection - never been an issue. I do have a 3G wireless router feeding the laptops and the Beyonwiz is fed through that via Lan. I run a very busy local community/tourism website that relies heavily on weather feeds, including BOM input, so I am pretty much into weather-related stuff. The WIZTV weather radar image just enabled me to keep one eye what was going on with the weather via my Beyonwiz and big screen, and had made me lazy lol.

In all other respects, including the radar images, everything works just fine on my WIZTV with the exception of the Sydney radar image. Cheers.

Stickler · Post by **Stickler** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 13:08

Just for completeness, my Melbourne radar image has not updated since 6/6/09 - time of upgrade to 301. Would be nice if it worked but there is always the PC or iphone to check it.

tonymy01 · Post by **tonymy01** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 13:58

my sydney is ok today, was up to date to the minute.

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 09:43

diesel wrote:Is the link for Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane radars not updating???

These all seem to show images from June 19 or June 21.

Well all my weather radar links have returned to these dates again after being up-to-date a week or so ago.

What's going on???

aza0 · Post by **aza0** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 18:47

My date's are all different for all the radar's. I checked on the computer and they are all up to date. Melbourne reads 12/07/09- Sydney is 21/07/09-Adelaide is05/06/09.......

diesel · Post by **diesel** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 22:21

So is there a solution to this or are the images cached on the BW server and that's what we are seeing - radar from 6 weeks ago?

mapota · Post by **mapota** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 15:35

bump,

Has anybody found an answer to this?

I am having trouble with the sydney radar images, the others seem OK. I have reset my router to no avail. If I connect withthe PC directly then I get an up to date image for sydney. The wiz gives me 30/08/2009 7:30 UTC.

Are there any other checks I can do?

Andrew

PS Beyonwiz DP-P1 - firmware 301.

tonymy01 · Post by **tonymy01** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 16:16

One drastic solution:
http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/phpbb2/viewt ... adar#65457

Oh.. P1. Try upgrading to the same release LOL?

Bruce85 · Post by **Bruce85** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 02:04

tonymy01 wrote:One drastic solution:
http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/phpbb2/viewt ... adar#65457

Oh.. P1. Try upgrading to the same release LOL?

The radar image I've been getting is from July.

I updated my firmware. Still getting the same image as I did in July.

Could the aforementioned problem be caused by hard drive damage?

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 08:37

Hi Bruce85,

Bruce85 wrote:The radar image I've been getting is from July.

I updated my firmware. Still getting the same image as I did in July.

Could the aforementioned problem be caused by hard drive damage?

Hard disk damage is unlikely. WizTV data is not cached to the internal hard disk.

Does your Beyonwiz have direct access to the Internet or is a PC providing the connection? I wonder if there is something caching the data along the way. I just checked WizTV and I am getting new (current) images. (I was looking at the Melbourne and Sydney data.)

Regards,
Ian.

mapota · Post by **mapota** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 08:54

Ian,

Mine is connected via a billion adsl router. All networking appears OK.

The sydney image is stuck at 30/08/09. If I try a PC that is connected to the same router then I get updated images.

Andrew

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 09:05

Could it be a combination of a caching proxy server in mapota's ISP, and the caching control headers not being set correctly on the pages sent from the WizTV server, or not being acted upon correctly by the caching proxy?

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 09:40

Hi Peter,

Yep, I suspect some sort of caching issue at play here.

Regards,
Ian.

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:13

IanSav wrote:WizTV data is not cached to the internal hard disk.

Why do you say that? Have you checked?

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:25

Hi Peter,

peteru wrote:
IanSav wrote:WizTV data is not cached to the internal hard disk.
Why do you say that? Have you checked?

No, I have not checked it. I made my comment because the time taken to bring up a previously used page is so long that it must have been re-fetched from the server. If those previous pages are in a local hard disk cache then the time taken to navigate back to the previous page is terribly unacceptable!

Regards,
Ian.

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:04

Well, you know what they say about assuming.

If you take the time to have a look in /tmp/mnt/idehdd/hyperspace/web/ you'll see that there's quite a bit of data there. On my system it comes up to 148MB.

WizTV - Weather Radar images

WizTV - Weather Radar images

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Sydney radar image. No updating.

Re: Sydney radar image. No updating.

Re: Sydney radar image. No updating.

Melbourne Radar Image too

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