Using LIDIC

Foxtail · Post by **Foxtail** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:54

Have new LIDIC coming to mate with my BW S1, can see specs and hook up but wonder how it works and how it can record various Austar (Foxtel ch)?.

madmax · Post by **madmax** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:09

Foxtail wrote:Have new LIDIC coming to mate with my BW S1, can see specs and hook up but wonder how it works and how it can record various Austar (Foxtel ch)?.

Easy, enable LiDiC in the Setup menu and you will have two new channels 950 and 951 in your service menu (one for each LiDiC input line). You can record and timeshift these "channels" just like any other FTA channels.

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:13

madmax wrote:
Foxtail wrote:Have new LIDIC coming to mate with my BW S1, can see specs and hook up but wonder how it works and how it can record various Austar (Foxtel ch)?.
Easy, enable LiDiC in the Setup menu and you will have two new channels 950 and 951 in your service menu (one for each LiDiC input line). You can record and timeshift these "channels" just like any other FTA channels.

Just to add that to timer-record Austar/Foxtel using the LiDiC, you need to set corresponding timers on the Beyonwiz and the Foxtel box. The Beyonwiz can't control the Foxtel box to make sure it's on and outputting the right program (as I believe the TiVo can).

j s · Post by **j s** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:33

prl wrote:(as I believe the TiVo can).

The Tivo sold here in Oz doesn't have any analogue input capability. There might be some US models that do though.

Foxtail · Post by **Foxtail** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:33

thanks guys.
So how does it record 2 different Austar ch at different times?.

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:48

Set two view timers on Austar box and two matching record timers on Beyonwiz.

Foxtail · Post by **Foxtail** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 13:34

Thanks, will try that.

Paul55 · Post by **Paul55** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 19:26

I don't think Austar (at least my receiver) can set view timers. Happy to be shown otherwise.

Foxtail · Post by **Foxtail** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:50

Just received the LiDiC, checked the manual and confused, can someone advise me how to connect this up to my BW S1 and Austar Boxes? (composte!/VideoS).

Currently I have HDMI cable from BW SI to Receiver and then HDMI to TV.

Paul55 · Post by **Paul55** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:58

Don't have one, but I would be trying S-Video (from LiDic to BW) first.

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 13:05

Plug a USB lead into the LiDiC and the other end into the BW, this sets up the connection for recording.

Then for preview connect either the S-video or composite video, from AV Out on the back of the LiDiC, into a matching input on the TV - same with the audio.

That's it apart from plugging the analogue source, Foxtel or Austar or VHS video and audio OUT into either LiDiC AV 1 or 2 IN

Foxtail · Post by **Foxtail** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 13:25

Thanks,
The receiver is ONKYO 605 and it can accept VideoS and redirect it to HDMI output so think I'll try that.

So I'd go Austar box via VideoS to LiDiC then out of that via VideoS to receiver?, then redirect to HDMI (to TV).

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 13:31

Yes - but I don't know anything about Onkyo and redirection etc.

tonymy01 · Post by **tonymy01** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 14:18

Does the LiDiC pass the video through when the Wiz is in standby? If yes, than this will work Foxy. If no, then you will need the Wiz on, in which case you can watch the Austar on a WIz channel anyway (950 I think), although I suppose if you are rapidly cycling between watching 2 things, one on Austar and one, say, timeshifted on the Wiz, then you may as well keep running the Austar on the thru connection to your HDMI upscaling on the Onkyo. Also does the Austar box have two SCARTs? If so, you can probably connect one connection to the Wiz, and one to the amp to upscale to HDMI, so you don't need to worry about whether the Wiz is in standby or not (and or potential degradation the WIz may cause for the passthru.... I didn't even know it had a passthru to be honest!).
If you want the best quality, stick with svideo. Does it have a separate svideo connection AND a TV-SCART? If so then you can definitely connect one to the amp and one to the Wiz LiDiC input. You won't need to use the LiDiC passthru in that instance.
Be aware that the VCR-SCART of most dual scart boxes is only ever composite output, no matter what you have setup for the TV-Out (so you can record to a VCR, hence its name).
Some boxes will let you setup the VCR-SCART to be svideo output, but this is a rare ability for most things.
Regards

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 14:41

LiDiC Specifications

Foxtail · Post by **Foxtail** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 17:20

Thanks for all the input guys, going to have a play with the LIDIC etc. on the weekend.

None of the devices have scart so will use VideoS.

Paul55 · Post by **Paul55** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 20:42

Foxtail wrote:Thanks for all the input guys, going to have a play with the LIDIC etc. on the weekend.

None of the devices have scart so will use VideoS.

I know it's a free country, by why insist on using incorrect terminology when the correct term has been provided by multiple posters

This has the potential to confuse those who are trying to help you.
PS. Another accepted title for S-Video is SVHS.

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 21:00

PS. Another accepted title for S-Video is SVHS.

There is absolutely no relation between S-Video and SVHS. Using those interchangeably is much worse than being slightly dyslexic with S-Video and VideoS.

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 21:26

The definitions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Video

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-VHS

Paul55 · Post by **Paul55** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 15:52

To get the most benefit from S-VHS, a direct video connection to the monitor is required, ideally via an S-Video or component video connection. However, consumer S-VHS equipment was usually limited to S-Video and composite...
It is not unusual to see the term S-VHS incorrectly used to refer to S-Video connectors (also called "Y/C connectors"), even in printed material. This may be due to S-VHS being one of the first consumer video products equipped with the Y/C connector

Thanks Netmask, I knew I had seen the S-Video connectors referred to as S-VHS. Just didn't realise it was incorrect. It's easy to see from your post how the correlation was made though.[/quote]

Foxtail · Post by **Foxtail** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 18:00

Just about given up on the LIDIC, stuff all info usage info in manual.

Hooked it up.

Austar Box to LIDIC via S-Video

Austar Box via S-Video to TV (via Onkyo receiver)

Austar Box to BW via USB

Have LIDIC showing in BW TV service, tried every button to get it t record, nothing happens.

Anyone have this piece of crap that can tell me what to do next before I drop it in the can.

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 18:17

Foxtail wrote:Just about given up on the LIDIC, stuff all info usage info in manual.

Hooked it up.

Austar Box to LIDIC via Video S

Austar Box via Video S to TV (via Onkyo receiver)

Austar Box to BW via USB

Have LIDIC showing in BW TV service, tried every button to get it t record, nothing happens.

Anyone have this piece of crap that can tell me what to do next before I drop it in the can.

Austar Box to BW via USB ????
or do you mean LiDiC to BW via USB.

Have a look at this wiring diagram
http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/LiDiC_overview.asp# and click on the connection icon on the page

tonymy01 · Post by **tonymy01** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 19:52

Did you enable the LiDiC in the Wiz setup menu? Are you able to channel surf to the two new channels created when the LiDiC is enabled?

DaveR · Post by **DaveR** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 03:45

Since you seem to be using S-Video, did you set the LiDiC menu options to:

- LiDiC = Enable

plus

- Input = S-Video
- Video Type = PAL

and / or

- Input 2 = S-Video
- Video Type 2 = PAL

Foxtail · Post by **Foxtail** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:05

Update.
Was able to manage a test recording.

Had Austar box on a program, had BW set on LIDIC, pressed record window came up with no date, just record/length etc. so could not set any date forward other than recording it instantly. Pressed record and it did.

Just can't get my head around...

How to record various Austar programs in advance while watching normal TV via BW.

Also when LIDIC and BW on but not recording picture looked washed out and voices way out of sync, yet when I recorded the program it was perfect, all very weird.

madmax · Post by **madmax** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:25

Foxtail wrote:How to record various Austar programs in advance while watching normal TV via BW.

You can't go Add Timer and select channel 950 or 951?

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:29

Just can't get my head around...

How to record various Austar programs in advance while watching normal TV via BW.

Looking at the Austar program guide, either printed or epg, note the time and length of the future desired program - say 7pm Monday for 2 hours.

Then on the BW set a manual timer using the PopUp menu for that time and date and for channel 950 or 951.

On the Austar box if there is a set view timer facility then set that so that the Austar will switch on at the appointed time and date to the Austar channel.

If it doesn't have this facility then you will have to remember to switch it on to the Austar channel you want say 5 minutes before the program is dues to start.

The BW should then start recording channel 950 or 951 at 7pm on Monday and as long as everything is connected and the Austar box is on you will have your recording.

On audio sync viewing via the LiDiC I've had the same problem and I think there is a buffering problem in other words timeshift etc just don't work. I've never been able to get that side of it to work properly but for timed recording it works...

Foxtail · Post by **Foxtail** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:52

Thanks netmask, I'll give that a go, we are getting somewhere!.

Foxtail · Post by **Foxtail** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 14:29

I have the Austar box on to record, then when I watch just the BW with both on I can here both units. Just about had enough of this stupid device its too complicated, I feel eBay comin soon.

tonymy01 · Post by **tonymy01** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 14:53

What were you hoping it would do, change the channel on your Austar box for you? Once you plug it into the right spot, and enable it correctly, then whatever is on the Austar box at the time ends up into the Wiz channel 950/951. So if you want to timeshift it, you can press pause etc like a normal TV channel. If you want to record it, you can channel surf to 950/951 and press record. If you want to record it later in the day, you setup a timer for it just like setting up a normal timer. There are a few ways to set normal timers on the Wiz however.
1. From ICE Interactive-forget using that method for 951/952
2. From the EPG-again, forget using that method for 951/952 as there is no EPG for those channels
3. From the timer menu- Popup-timerlist, red to add, ok to edit etc.
Regards

grl · Post by **grl** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 09:11

Great work guys helping Foxtail. I would have given up long ago. Foxtail's attitude puts me on edge. But then I just got through the ordeal of introducing my mother to VOIP. My patience is at a low ebb...

madmax · Post by **madmax** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 20:52

tonymy01 wrote: 2. From the EPG-again, forget using that method for 951/952 as there is no EPG for those channels

Well, you could choose a show in the same timeslot and press REC, REC, and then just change the "Service" line to 950.

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