P2 version of the LiDiC

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 14:47

Does any one know if the LiDiC within the BW P2 produces files in the correct aspect ratio compared to the combo of LIDiC plus P1 or S1? Maybe getting a photograph off the TV screen with a test pattern to show the linearity? Once transferred to PC or MAC there is no problem so in effect a TV screen dump is required via a good quality digital camera.

grl · Post by **grl** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 13:47

I read this post ages ago and didn't get the implications until I started doing a bit more with it. The files look OK when played on the P2 but when transferred using wizfx, the aspect ratio is 5/4 instead of 4/3. Mediainfo reports this as 5/4 and all the players I have tried make it look that way too.

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 14:29

grl wrote:I read this post ages ago and didn't get the implications until I started doing a bit more with it. The files look OK when played on the P2 but when transferred using wizfx, the aspect ratio is 5/4 instead of 4/3. Mediainfo reports this as 5/4 and all the players I have tried make it look that way too.

Good to hear it's been fixed on the P2! Using the LiDiC in conjunction with the S1 or P1 the situation is reversed ie it plays back on the BW as 5:4 and is ok with most players on a PC.

All you have to do is correct the aspect ratio in the PC players easily done in VLC or MPC etc. Using TMPCGenc Express all you have to do is change the PAR from square tr 16:9 it will then convert the file to a conventional MPEG2 file for making a DVD. Quite likely VSO ConvertXtoDVD will do it on the fly with this file.

Recusant · Post by **Recusant** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 22:10

Is the DP-P2 essentially the same as the LIDIC? I'd have to use the same software if i had either machine? (something that can modify MPEG4 stuff).

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 22:33

Recusant wrote:Is the DP-P2 essentially the same as the LIDIC? I'd have to use the same software if i had either machine? (something that can modify MPEG4 stuff).

Yes the file format is identical

wook · Post by **wook** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 23:11

Would the resulting video quality be the same if you were using a DP-P2TB or a DP-Lite i with lidic ?

IanB · Post by **IanB** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 06:44

Yes, the P2 uses the same chipset as the standalone LiDiC

wook · Post by **wook** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 07:57

hmmm ok. I may have to try something else to record from my foxtel IQHD box. Tried with the lidic and beyonwiz lite i and the resulting video quality is as bad or worse than vhs. Maybe some sort of dvd recorder will have better results.

IanB · Post by **IanB** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 07:04

Something else is going on.

Standard def foxtel box into composite LiDiC input gives quality a bit better than VHS.

Standard def foxtel box into SVideo LiDiC input gives quality a lot better than VHS.

Have you got the IQ2 setup to give adequate quality standard def output?

wook · Post by **wook** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 20:07

only way to get IQ2 to s-video on the lidic is to put a composite/s-video adaptor on the composite cable coming from the IQ2. Would that adaptor alone make such a difference?

Tried looking at the IQ2 setup but in the 'picture settings' section number 1 'video output settings' is faded and can't be chosen.

IanB · Post by **IanB** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 08:25

wook wrote:only way to get IQ2 to s-video on the lidic is to put a composite/s-video adaptor on the composite cable coming from the IQ2. Would that adaptor alone make such a difference?

Appears you have the infamous 851 box, no Scart, no S-Video. Even an expensive Composite to S-Video converter with an elaborate comb filter won't help, the 851 has a crap low pass/high pass composite encoder. You may get more joy from a Component to S-Video encoder, but the good ones are pricey. It will probably be cheaper to get a proper Component capture device for your PC.

An other solution might be to try to get Foxtel to swap you an 850 box with Scart and S-Video outputs. Other .au forums like overclockers and whirlpool have copious discussion on how "work the system" to get the desired result.

Tried looking at the IQ2 setup but in the 'picture settings' section number 1 'video output settings' is faded and can't be chosen.

Yep that's an 851.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 08:44

The Topfield 2400 PVRs can capture component up to 576p.

wook · Post by **wook** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 16:22

looks like getting the lidic box was a waste of money. Component seems to be the best way of getting something decent out of the IQ2, and even then I have read the 850 could get HD out of the component while the 851 only does SD. I might get a panasonic dmr xw390 dvd recorder solely for foxtel and keep the beyonwiz for regular tv. Why does foxtel make life hard for it's customers? some competition would help.

P2 version of the LiDiC

P2 version of the LiDiC

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