Request for updates for channel picons

simoncasey · Post by **simoncasey** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:30

Thanks Ian

Just updated them manually although I don't think they are links but actual copies of the images. I renamed them based on the new ids and just don't have one for 9life yet.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:42

Hi Simoncasey,

simoncasey wrote:Just updated them manually although I don't think they are links but actual copies of the images. I renamed them based on the new ids and just don't have one for 9life yet.

They really are links! Use "ls -l" to see more information including the link data.

Regards,
Ian.

simoncasey · Post by **simoncasey** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:09

IanSav wrote:Hi Simoncasey,
simoncasey wrote:Just updated them manually although I don't think they are links but actual copies of the images. I renamed them based on the new ids and just don't have one for 9life yet.
They really are links! Use "ls -l" to see more information including the link data.

Regards,
Ian.

D'oh, of course they are links. Anyway, renaming them usng Windows worked.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:29

Hi Simoncasey,

Just remember to undo everything you did *BEFORE* applying any updates.

Playing with files that are managed by the package control system (like the picons) can have bad results when the next update needs to be applied. I think you should be safe in this case but I thought you, and anyone else reading this, should be warned.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 14:40

The safest way to make those sort of changes is to make a backup copy of the picons first:

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cp -a /picon /picon.bak
cp -a /piconlcd /piconlcd.bak

The second command is only needed on the T4,

Then make any changes to /picon and /piconlcd (the latter will fix up the picons for the T4 front panel).

When update time comes:

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rm -r /picon
cp -a /picon.bak /picon
rm -r /piconlcd
cp -a /piconlcd.bak /piconlcd

The last two are only needed on the T4.

When the proper picons are in the distribution, remove the .bak directories in a similar way using rm -rf.

Be careful you do rm -rf on the right directory!

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 15:12

IanSav wrote:Hi Prl,
prl wrote:I'm really disappointed that files for Melbourne and Sydney were never posted.
Gully and I should both take offence at this comment. We both provided the Melbourne data as soon as you asked.
...

Indeed. I apologise.

I should have checked before posting, rather than relying on memory. However Sydney data wasn't provided for that first request. It has been now.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 15:30

MrQuade wrote:
ccspack wrote:So what happens now? How do we receive these changes?
They should come in one of the next couple of updates. When prl has a reasonably complete collection of regions, he can make the required changes, and submit them for inclusion in the firmware. When his submissions have been accepted and included into the the firmware, and all the other necessary fixes/changes have been made, a new set of updates will be pushed out to all users via an online update.

I have downloaded all the files posted so far since my request. For any regions that I have old format data for, I need to "fake up" the new data format from those files so that I at least don't drop any locations. I have a script that almost does the right thing, but it needs some tweaks.

I need to create the picon files for any new channels (IanSav has provided links to them, but they need trimming and re-scaling, and for the T4 front panel picons, conversion to greyscale.

Then I can prepare the /picon directory for the T series (and /piconlcd for the T4) using the channel data and my picon collection.

It then gets submitted to the picon repository, and when merged into the main repository, it becomes available for distribution. When that happens is up to peteru and Jai (Wiz HQ), but it obviously can't happen before all the other steps.

I'm currently considering another approach that should allow me to create the picon sets without needing to collect data this way. But not right now.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 15:33

Wiz HQ wrote:Here is Sydney and Wollongong, I am in the South Sydney but can scan the Gong from here but I do pick up a couple of different sites so a have a few duplicates, not sure if that matters or not? If you just need the main Transmitter let me know and I can do a manual scan for you.

Thanks, Jai.

I prefer to have a clean scan for a region, but what you've supplied will probably be OK. I'll let you know if the Woolongong data causes any major headaches.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 15:41

prl wrote: I prefer to have a clean scan for a region, but what you've supplied will probably be OK. I'll let you know if the Woolongong data causes any major headaches.

You may want to hold off integrating Perth until I (or someone else) can submit a new copy. I think the one I posted earlier today is no good.

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 15:48

MrQuade wrote: You may want to hold off integrating Perth until I (or someone else) can submit a new copy. I think the one I posted earlier today is no good.

Here's a 'new' Perth scan - hope the format is correct.

Perth.zip: (803 Bytes) Downloaded 83 times

Cheers
Geoff

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 15:57

Grumpy_Geoff wrote:
MrQuade wrote: You may want to hold off integrating Perth until I (or someone else) can submit a new copy. I think the one I posted earlier today is no good.
Here's a 'new' Perth scan - hope the format is correct.
...

Got it. Thanks.

blip · Post by **blip** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 16:01

Here is Orange, NSW

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 16:58

Hi,

@Prl: Rather than changing the OverlayHD skin I am thinking about ringing Channel 9 and complaining about the length of the new channel name. That may prompt another change and may affect your efforts.

I can't call now as the Engineering people only work normal business hours. I will try and call them tomorrow.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 17:16

IanSav wrote:... @Prl: Rather than changing the OverlayHD skin I am thinking about ringing Channel 9 and complaining about the length of the new channel name. That may prompt another change and may affect your efforts.

I can't call now as the Engineering people only work normal business hours. I will try and call them tomorrow.
...

Thanks, but it's not only Nine and affiliates that do it. Prime does, too. "PRIME7 Central Coast" is a strong competitor with the new "Channel 9 Melbourne" for excessive length.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 17:25

IanSav, Gully, unfortunately I can't use your recently posted channel data for Melbourne.

IanSav, yours only contains Nine's channels, and neither of them has new servicenames for either SBS or Nine.

The URL posted in the instructions downloads the LastScanned bouquet. In IanSav's case it looks like the last scan was just for Nine, but I don't know why the new Nine services aren't here.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 17:31

Hi Prl,

I don't understand. The second version of the file now has entries for each channel:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<e2servicelist>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:64:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0::Terrestrial TV LCN</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>Terrestrial TV LCN</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:631:603:1014:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>ONE</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:231:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>ABC</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:311:310:3202:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>SBS ONE</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:530:503:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>7 Digital</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:430:430:1012:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>Channel 9 Melbourne</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:635:603:1014:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>TEN Digital</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:638:603:1014:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>ELEVEN</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:637:603:1014:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>ONE</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:636:603:1014:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>TVSN</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:639:603:1014:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>SpreeTV</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:233:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>ABC</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:232:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>ABC2/KIDS</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:234:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>ABC3</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:230:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>ABC News 24</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:315:310:3202:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>SBS HD</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:312:310:3202:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>SBS TWO</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:313:310:3202:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>Food Network</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:314:310:3202:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>NITV</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:E01:E00:3220:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>C31</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:534:503:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>7 Digital</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:531:503:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>7 Digital 1</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:532:503:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>7TWO</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:533:503:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>7mate</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:537:503:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>TV4ME</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:16:538:503:1013:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>RACING.COM</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:19:431:430:1012:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>9HD Melbourne</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:435:430:1012:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>Channel 9 Melbourne</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:436:430:1012:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>9Gem</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:437:430:1012:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>9Go!</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:433:430:1012:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>9Life</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:434:430:1012:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>Extra</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
	<e2service>
		<e2servicereference>1:0:1:432:430:1012:EEEE0000:0:0:0:</e2servicereference>
		<e2servicename>9Go!</e2servicename>
	</e2service>
</e2servicelist>

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 17:44

IanSav wrote:Hi Prl,

I don't understand. ...

I do now.

The instructions say: "Save the document as getservices.xml in a folder named for the region (e.g. Canberra\getservices.xml). Then make a ZIP or tar (or compressed tar) archive of the folder."

I didn't check that the ZIP was in the expected form. I now have the correct data.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 18:40

I still don't have updated data for:
Adelaide
Albany WA
Bendigo VIC
Central Coast
Hobart
Launceston
Sunshine Coast
Toowoomba
Wide Bay

I have fully updated data (including the Nine changes) for:
Brisbane
Geelong
Melbourne
Perth
Sydney

If you have the new Nine services and aren't in that list, please post the channel data for your region (instructions). If you're in one of the regions that I don't have updated data for, please post your channel data. If you don't have picons at all, please post your channel data.

simoncasey · Post by **simoncasey** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 18:46

prl wrote:I still don't have updated data for:
Adelaide
Albany WA
Bendigo VIC
Central Coast
Hobart
Launceston
Sunshine Coast
Toowoomba
Wide Bay

I have fully updated data (including the Nine changes) for:
Brisbane
Geelong
Melbourne
Perth
Sydney

If you have the new Nine services and aren't in that list, please post the channel data for your region (instructions). If you're in one of the regions that I don't have updated data for, please post your channel data. If you don't have picons at all, please post your channel data.

It might be worth contacting icetv as they are after the similar data too. You may be able to share what you have http://forum.icetv.com.au/iceforum/icet ... 8#msg25078

scotty · Post by **scotty** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 18:47

Here's Adelaide. Thanks prl!

Scotty

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 19:36

prl wrote:
IanSav wrote:Hi Prl,
prl wrote:I'm really disappointed that files for Melbourne and Sydney were never posted.
Gully and I should both take offence at this comment. We both provided the Melbourne data as soon as you asked.
...
Indeed. I apologise.

I should have checked before posting, rather than relying on memory. However Sydney data wasn't provided for that first request. It has been now.

No offence taken here.

though I figure I might owe you an apology because I did mine before rescanning for channel 9's latest changes so presume they were not included.

Anyway looks like it is all sorted now.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 19:43

Hi Prl,

Have you noted / got / prepared the updated icons for SBS ONE, SBS TWO, Food Network, RACING.COM (though I prefer the one we created) as well as all the Nine Network icons?

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:26

IanSav wrote:Hi Prl,

Have you noted / got / prepared the updated icons for SBS ONE, SBS TWO, Food Network, RACING.COM (though I prefer the one we created) as well as all the Nine Network icons?

Regards,
Ian.

I'll definitely do the Food Network. The logo on Wikipedia for SBS is black foreground, which is not really useful, and is in the same style as the current logo. There isn't a distinct SBS HD logo on Wikipedia. The vertical layout of the SBS 2 logo on Wikipedia doesn't suit the aspect ratio of the T series picons.

I agree that our racing.com logo is better than the one on Wikipedia.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:08

Hi Prl,

Please check out my PM.

Regards,
Ian.

dRdoS7 · Post by **dRdoS7** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:42

Hi,

IanSav wrote:Hi Prl,

Have you noted / got / prepared the updated icons for SBS ONE, SBS TWO, Food Network, RACING.COM (though I prefer the one we created) as well as all the Nine Network icons?

Regards,
Ian.

Here's a good one for SBS Food:

: sbsgeneric_sbs.png (8.74 KiB) Viewed 5051 times

I made the text white, which is fine on the T, but NFG on a webpage.

dRdoS7

simoncasey · Post by **simoncasey** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:59

prl wrote:
IanSav wrote:Hi Prl,

Have you noted / got / prepared the updated icons for SBS ONE, SBS TWO, Food Network, RACING.COM (though I prefer the one we created) as well as all the Nine Network icons?

Regards,
Ian.
I'll definitely do the Food Network. The logo on Wikipedia for SBS is black foreground, which is not really useful, and is in the same style as the current logo. There isn't a distinct SBS HD logo on Wikipedia. The vertical layout of the SBS 2 logo on Wikipedia doesn't suit the aspect ratio of the T series picons.

I agree that our racing.com logo is better than the one on Wikipedia.

There's an sbs HD logo here. http://logos.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_HD

Whilst it is black, the logo that use as the watermark is the same but in white.

stevebow · Post by **stevebow** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 13:41

Hi prl,

prl wrote:It then gets submitted to the picon repository, and when merged into the main repository, it becomes available for distribution.

I'm kinda hanging off updating the system s/w until the menu navigation button issue is fixed. Would it be possible to make a zip file with the new /picon and /piconlcd directories available when you're done please?

Thanks,
Steve

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 14:07

stevebow wrote:Hi prl,

prl wrote:It then gets submitted to the picon repository, and when merged into the main repository, it becomes available for distribution.
I'm kinda hanging off updating the system s/w until the menu navigation button issue is fixed. Would it be possible to make a zip file with the new /picon and /piconlcd directories available when you're done please?

Thanks,
Steve

I was planning on doing that just in the beta forum, but mainly because I can't test the new Nine channels.

It can't be done in a ZIP file, because the setup uses Unix soft links, which ZIP doesn't support. When I do it, it's in a tar file.

stevebow · Post by **stevebow** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 14:56

prl wrote:the setup uses Unix soft links, which ZIP doesn't support. When I do it, it's in a tar file.

Yes, of course, thanks.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:12

Hi Prl,

Here is an updated Melbourne listing with the missing Radio services.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:42

Got it. Thanks.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 16:28

I've posted new picon sets for testing in the beta forum area. As of 10/12/15, the new picon setup is available in the beta firmware.

The "state of play" for updates is:

I still don't have updated data for:
Albany WA
Bendigo VIC
Central Coast NSW
Hobart
Launceston
Sunshine Coast
Toowoomba
Wide Bay

I have updates for the SBS Food Network, but not for Nine, for the following regions, but I'm not sure whether any of them actually have the new Nine services yet (except for Canberra, which I know hasn't):
Canberra
Newcastle
Orange
Wollongong

I have fully updated data (including the Nine changes) for:
Adelaide
Brisbane
Geelong
Melbourne
Perth
Sydney

blip · Post by **blip** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 17:41

Orange is a WIN area and doesn't have the new 9 channels.

paullings · Post by **paullings** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 21:12

I spoke to NBN Newcastle and the new Nine channels are only for metro areas at the moment. They have no timing when they will be implemented in the regional channels.

scotty · Post by **scotty** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:12

prl wrote:...I still don't have updated data for:
Adelaide...

Was the data I posted for Adelaide no good?

Scotty

prl · Post by **prl** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:26

scotty wrote:
prl wrote:...I still don't have updated data for:
Adelaide...
Was the data I posted for Adelaide no good?

Scotty

It was fine. I must have missed it when I did the downloads. Sorry. It's in now.

I've updated the status post.

stevebow · Post by **stevebow** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 09:23

Hi prl,

prl wrote:I've posted new picon sets for testing in the beta forum area.

Thanks very much, but I can't seem to find these in the Public Beta forum. Do you have a link? Even searched your posts but must be missing something obvious.

Steve

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 09:38

They're not in the public beta forum.

srto2 · Post by **srto2** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 13:40

prl wrote:They're not in the public beta forum.

Secret men's business?

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 14:49

Testing.

srto2 · Post by **srto2** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 17:29

prl wrote:Testing.

I see...

I appreciate that someone is working on this. But can you enlighten an old fella on the eventual update procedure for these icons? Will they come as part of a firmware update or are they available as per any other plugin or extension?

I am struggling with coming to grips with a few of the T4's weirdities ( eg, fan noise, heat, power, bouquets (wtf?) et-al, etc) so it would nice to have this one explained a bit.

Please?

Regards,
Rob

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 17:39

It'll just come through as a regular firmware update. No need to do anything fancy for them.

srto2 · Post by **srto2** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 17:47

MrQuade wrote:It'll just come through as a regular firmware update. No need to do anything fancy for them.

Thanks! Would that be as an on-line update or via USB, or both?

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 17:49

Hi Srto2,

Both.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 17:54

I'm hoping to submit the updated picons to the source repository tomorrow Thurs 3 Dec or the day after.

However, actually getting out a distribution will need action by peteru, and he's not available at the moment. I'm not sure when he'll be back.

srto2 · Post by **srto2** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 18:25

prl wrote:I'm hoping to submit the updated picons to the source repository tomorrow Thurs 3 Dec or the day after.

However, actually getting out a distribution will need action by peteru, and he's not available at the moment. I'm not sure when he'll be back.

Thanks Peter. It won't be the first time I've relied on Mr. Urbanec!

But since migration to my DP-P1 from the Toppy 5000s I've not had much to worry about.

The T4 is clearly a work in progress, and even after browsing the forum I am not yet entirely sure of the procedures, or who is responsible, for debugging and modifying. I see peteru, prl and IanSav (I'm using overlayHD) as being the major drivers of the T series and am slowly finding out how things are done around here. if IceTV hadn't gone ito receivership I wouldn't have jumped into a T4 just yet...

Regards,
Rob

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:10

It's probably useful for you to know that the people you mention are Beyonwiz users rather than Beyonwiz employees.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:11

I have submitted the updates to the picons to the picon repository. In due course they should be incorporated into the master repository for the picons and make their way into a distribution.

fastcars · Post by **fastcars** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:54

Peter, thanks for your work regarding the picons.

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