New Firmware for all T-Series Models (T2/T3/T4) 10/03/2017

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 15:11

iannrob wrote:Since installing the new firmware I have been unable to find my PC via the browse network neighbourhood in settings. I also cannot find the T3 in Network section of the PC file explorer. I can ping the T3 and connect to it via a browser and webif comes up. The end result is I cant transfer from PC to T3 or vice versa. All this was working prior to the firmware upgrade. Any suggestions please, I'm tearing my hair out!

From a web browser - ftp://root:none@beyonwizt3

From Windows Explorer, enter this in the address bar - \\beyonwizt3
If Windows complains about already authenticating as another user - use \\{IP-address-of-T-Series}
For the "Root" share, user and password are both "beyonwiz"
The "Movie" share is open access.

See my post for creating batch files to do same - http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/viewto ... 16#p150174

iannrob · Post by **iannrob** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 15:39

Grumpy_Geoff wrote:
iannrob wrote:Since installing the new firmware I have been unable to find my PC via the browse network neighbourhood in settings. I also cannot find the T3 in Network section of the PC file explorer. I can ping the T3 and connect to it via a browser and webif comes up. The end result is I cant transfer from PC to T3 or vice versa. All this was working prior to the firmware upgrade. Any suggestions please, I'm tearing my hair out!
From a web browser - ftp://root:none@beyonwizt3

From Windows Explorer, enter this in the address bar - \\beyonwizt3
If Windows complains about already authenticating as another user - use \\{IP-address-of-T-Series}
For the "Root" share, user and password are both "beyonwiz"
The "Movie" share is open access.

See my post for creating batch files to do same - http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/viewto ... 16#p150174

That did not work, I got network error Windows cannot access BeyonwizT3

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 15:42

iannrob wrote: That did not work, I got network error Windows cannot access BeyonwizT3

Did you restore settings from 4.4? Naughty naughty if you did.
Did the FTP access via browser work?

raymondjpg · Post by **raymondjpg** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 15:47

MrQuade wrote:You can work around this by connecting to \\<ip address of your beyonwizt2>\root (type that into your Explorer address bar or run prompt)

This tricks Windows into thinking it is connecting to a different device and will let you use the "beyonwiz/beyonwiz" username/password.

If you just want to access files there, you can always use ftp too ( ftp://root@beyonwizt2/ in your web browser)

All of this requires a couple of actions each time on the part of the user. You will recall that you advised me to edit the smb.conf file to allow Guest access to the Root directory. Possibly the reasoning behind not advising folk to do this as a matter of course is twofold - one was because locking down the Root directory behind a user/password login was supposed to deter people from tinkering with files therein, or two because editing the smb.conf file could be tricky. The former reason is, I think, redundant. If people are desperate enough to get into the Root directory they will find a way anyway, and people who don't won't want to know about gaining access to it in whatever way. The second reason is more compelling, but most people who would be game to go about editing the smb.conf file would probably be reasonably competent to do that and there is always a reflash of the firmware as a last resort if things go awry. Perhaps a recommendation of a text file editor in Windows would be in order - I used Notepad++ which was clever enough to recognise the file as Linux UTF8.

About the only reason I wanted to get into the Root directory was to view the debug log files. Maybe now and then to look at some config file that is referred to in these forums. However that is reason enough for me to prefer ready access to the Root directory via Guest without, as I call it, faffing around.

iannrob · Post by **iannrob** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 15:50

Grumpy_Geoff wrote:
iannrob wrote: That did not work, I got network error Windows cannot access BeyonwizT3
Did you restore settings from 4.4? Naughty naughty if you did.

No I did not restore settings

Did the FTP access via browser work?

Yes. If I type in the T3 IP address I get webif

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 15:54

raymondjpg wrote: All of this requires a couple of actions each time on the part of the user. You will recall that you advised me to edit the smb.conf file to allow Guest access to the Root directory.

You can also just save these locations as bookmarks in Explorer too.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 15:57

iannrob wrote:
Grumpy_Geoff wrote: Did the FTP access via browser work?
Yes. If I type in the T3 IP address I get webif

That's not quite what he asked.

You can get ftp access to the T3 with this address

ftp://root@beyonwizt3/

raymondjpg · Post by **raymondjpg** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 16:00

iannrob wrote:
Grumpy_Geoff wrote:
iannrob wrote: That did not work, I got network error Windows cannot access BeyonwizT3
Did you restore settings from 4.4? Naughty naughty if you did.

No I did not restore settings

Did the FTP access via browser work?

Yes. If I type in the T3 IP address I get webif

Need to type "\\T3 IP address".

iannrob · Post by **iannrob** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 16:05

raymondjpg wrote:
iannrob wrote:
Grumpy_Geoff wrote:
iannrob wrote: That did not work, I got network error Windows cannot access BeyonwizT3
Did you restore settings from 4.4? Naughty naughty if you did.

No I did not restore settings

Did the FTP access via browser work?

Yes. If I type in the T3 IP address I get webif
Need to type "\\T3 IP address".

If I just put in the IP address I get wbif,
if I \\T3 IP address nothing happens

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 16:06

MrQuade wrote:
iannrob wrote:
Grumpy_Geoff wrote: Did the FTP access via browser work?
Yes. If I type in the T3 IP address I get webif
That's not quite what he asked.

You can get ftp access to the T3 with this address

ftp://root@beyonwizt3/

I find ftp://root:none@beyonwizt3/ works more cleanly in Firefox, because it avoids the password popup box. The string "none" can be replaced by anything you like that's legal in the password part of a URL (plain alphanumerics like justguess123 are OK).

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 16:11

iannrob wrote:
Grumpy_Geoff wrote:
iannrob wrote: That did not work, I got network error Windows cannot access BeyonwizT3
Did you restore settings from 4.4? Naughty naughty if you did.

No I did not restore settings

Did the FTP access via browser work?
Yes. If I type in the T3 IP address I get webif

Can you ping the t3 by name?
Is Samba running on your T3? Check MENU -> Setup -> Network -> Samba

iannrob · Post by **iannrob** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 16:28

prl wrote:
MrQuade wrote:
iannrob wrote:
Grumpy_Geoff wrote: Did the FTP access via browser work?
Yes. If I type in the T3 IP address I get webif
That's not quite what he asked.

You can get ftp access to the T3 with this address

ftp://root@beyonwizt3/
I find ftp://root:none@beyonwizt3/ works more cleanly in Firefox, because it avoids the password popup box. The string "none" can be replaced by anything you like that's legal in the password part of a URL (plain alphanumerics like justguess123 are OK).

Does not work Firefox says cant access

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 16:32

iannrob wrote: Does not work Firefox says cant access

Substitute your T3's IP address for the but that says "beyonwizt3" then.

You must either be using a static IP address, using an external DNS server, or your router's DNS may not be working properly.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 17:15

Hmm.. odd. When I looked in MENU>Setup>Network>FTP on my test T3 it said the Autostart was enabled, but the FTP server was stopped.

Pressing GREEN Start had no effect.

Starting the FTP server manually with

/etc/init.d/vsftpd start

(which is what pressing GREEN Start does) printed

* starting FTP Server: vsftpd... done.

but the FTP server didn't in fact start. The attempts to start FTP manually didn't log anything to /var/log (any file there).

I get the same on our in-use T4, but FTP on my test T4 works just fine. I suspect some sort of problem due to my never having set everything up from scratch.

Added: copying /etc/vsftpd.conf from a box where FTP was working to one where it wasn't fixed the problem on the one that wasn't working.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 17:22

prl wrote: I get the same on our in-use T4, but FTP on my test T4 works just fine. I suspect some sort of problem due to my never having set everything up from scratch.

Yep, that sounds like the exact symptoms of 4.4 settings.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 17:28

MrQuade wrote:
prl wrote: I get the same on our in-use T4, but FTP on my test T4 works just fine. I suspect some sort of problem due to my never having set everything up from scratch.
Yep, that sounds like the exact symptoms of 4.4 settings.

I've just added a comment to my post. Copying the FTP config file from a "good" box to a "bad" box fixes the problem for me.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 17:35

prl wrote: I've just added a comment to my post. Copying the FTP config file from a "good" box to a "bad" box fixes the problem for me.

Also from the alpha thread

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opkg remove vsftpd
opkg install --force-reinstall --force-maintainer vsftpd

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 17:37

MrQuade wrote:
prl wrote: I've just added a comment to my post. Copying the FTP config file from a "good" box to a "bad" box fixes the problem for me.

Also from the alpha thread
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opkg remove vsftpd
opkg install --force-reinstall --force-maintainer vsftpd

That's a lot more useful for someone who doesn't run a Beyonwiz menagerie, like I do

kazz · Post by **kazz** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 19:07

Thanks again to all who helped me out last night, I really was too tired to be doing anything that involved brain power.

But I'm pleased to report that the update to 16.1 on the T4 tonight went without a hitch.

juergen · Post by **juergen** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 21:13

MrQuade wrote:

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opkg remove vsftpd
opkg install --force-reinstall --force-maintainer vsftpd

Thank you for that MrQuade.

I forgot to reset all my settings as part of the firmware upgrade on my T4 so ended up doing a factory reset. Everything seemed to work except for FTP.

The above got me most of the way but I had to force the uninstall:

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opkg remove --force-depends --force-remove vsftpd

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 21:17

juergen wrote: I forgot to reset all my settings as part of the firmware upgrade on my T4 so ended up doing a factory reset. Everything seemed to work except for FTP.

Your will find that Samba is also broken, plus an unknown number of other features.

I'd advise that you are better off running the USB update from scratch and not restoring your settings.

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 21:21

juergen wrote:...
I forgot to reset all my settings as part of the firmware upgrade on my T4 so ended up doing a factory reset. Everything seemed to work except for FTP.

Is Samba working for you? In the Alpha, if the 4.4 settimgs were restored then it broke Samba and fudges had to be made.
Have you now got an 'open access T4?

juergen · Post by **juergen** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 21:30

Grumpy_Geoff wrote:Is Samba working for you? In the Alpha, if the 4.4 settimgs were restored then it broke Samba and fudges had to be made.
Have you now got an 'open access T4?

I wasn't using Samba before, but just tried without success. Looks like it time to dig out the USB as suggested

My T4 is a standard retail one - not sure about "open access"

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 21:42

juergen wrote:
Grumpy_Geoff wrote:Is Samba working for you? In the Alpha, if the 4.4 settimgs were restored then it broke Samba and fudges had to be made.
Have you now got an 'open access T4?
I wasn't using Samba before, but just tried without success. Looks like it time to dig out the USB as suggested
My T4 is a standard retail one - not sure about "open access"

By 'open' I meant no password access - but it's not relevant now that we know it's buggered

This is completely up to you, but this is what I did and it was fine, no problems for many weeks - http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/viewto ... 20#p143271
I eventually started from scratch for another reason (that turned out to not be a reason

)

You might get by with just this - http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/viewto ... 30#p143035

Just be prepared to restart from scratch if issues arise as time.marches on....

juergen · Post by **juergen** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 22:01

Grumpy_Geoff wrote:You might get by with just this - http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/viewto ... 30#p143035

Just be prepared to restart from scratch if issues arise as time.marches on....

Thanks for the info. I just re-did the upgrade now and both SMTP and FTP are happily working!

niloc · Post by **niloc** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 09:46

Like other's posting here I too am unable to have my T4 read the update on USB. I have searched this topic for solutions but I have not found anything that works.
I've tried booting the T4 with the unziped files on 4 different sticks two of which were Fat32, 1Gb and 8 Gb. Both pretty old as suggested in an earlier post but that's all I have.

Maybe Beyonwiz can provide something that works for everyone?

Any other suggestions welcome.

Regards,
Col

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 09:56

niloc wrote: I've tried booting the T4 with the unziped files on 4 different sticks two of which were Fat32, 1Gb and 8 Gb. Both pretty old as suggested in an earlier post but that's all I have.

When you unzip the files to the stick, do you do so such that the "beyonwiz" directory is in the root of the USB stick?

Do you see the stick being accessed when the T4 first boots up? (if it has LEDs on it).

Have you unplugged all other USB devices from the T4? (Have you tested your T4's USB ports to see if they work?)

niloc wrote:Maybe Beyonwiz can provide something that works for everyone?

Here is mention one that is readily available if you like.

iannrob · Post by **iannrob** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:11

MrQuade wrote:
iannrob wrote: Does not work Firefox says cant access
Substitute your T3's IP address for the but that says "beyonwizt3" then.

You must either be using a static IP address, using an external DNS server, or your router's DNS may not be working properly.

Totally blacked out here on the sunshine coast so not able to proceed at the moment. The only thing having trouble is the T3 all the other technology attached to the router is operating OK. The T3 was operating OK until the firmware update. I was using static IP addresses for the PC and T3 but disabled them as part of the troubleshooting, the reboot did not change anything, still same problems

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:13

niloc wrote:Like other's posting here I too am unable to have my T4 read the update on USB. I have searched this topic for solutions but I have not found anything that works.
I've tried booting the T4 with the unziped files on 4 different sticks two of which were Fat32, 1Gb and 8 Gb. Both pretty old as suggested in an earlier post but that's all I have.

Hi Col,

Format the USB stick again (FAT32) - I've found it helps.
Check the USB port works - put a text file or photo on the tlash drive, plug it into the T4 and access it via MENU -> Sources / Files.
Even with known working USB sticks, it can still be hit and miss for me. Shutdown, switch off at rear, plug stick in, switch on. If you see the update screen, good-o for dogs.
Don't forget the 'press up arrow' prompt is talking about the front panel up arrow, and you've only 10 seconds to press it or a normal boot will occur.
In the stick's (extracted) "beyonwiz\hdp" folder, you can change the file named "noforce" to "force" and then you won't get prompted to press the up arrow and the update will proceed (assuming if the flash drive is recognised).

Forum member Laurie44 states the "Lexar JumpDrive S25 USB 3.0 16 GB" works - http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/viewto ... 98#p150154
$15 at Big W - https://www.bigw.com.au/product/lexar-j ... 000286252/
$20 at Woolworths

Keep at it.

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:33

iannrob wrote:
MrQuade wrote:
iannrob wrote: Does not work Firefox says cant access
Substitute your T3's IP address for the but that says "beyonwizt3" then.

You must either be using a static IP address, using an external DNS server, or your router's DNS may not be working properly.
Totally blacked out here on the sunshine coast so not able to proceed at the moment. The only thing having trouble is the T3 all the other technology attached to the router is operating OK. The T3 was operating OK until the firmware update. I was using static IP addresses for the PC and T3 but disabled them as part of the troubleshooting, the reboot did not change anything, still same problems

AFAIK, you haven't answered these questions I asked earlier, so when you get power back -
Is Samba running on your T3? Check MENU -> Setup -> Network -> Samba
Can you ping the T3 by name? - "ping beyonwizt3' in a Windows command prompt

On your T3, what does MENU -> Information -> Network report for both 'Hostname:' and 'IP:'?
Using the above network info, do these work in a Windows command prompt -
Samba access by hostname - "start \\beyonwizt3" (or "start \\{reported Hostname}")
Samba access by IP address - "start \\{reported IP address}"

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:57

raymondjpg wrote:...
About the only reason I wanted to get into the Root directory was to view the debug log files. Maybe now and then to look at some config file that is referred to in these forums. However that is reason enough for me to prefer ready access to the Root directory via Guest without, as I call it, faffing around.

For a 'no faffing around' access - use browser FTP access (or rich client FTP access).
With browser access, it's easy to read log & config files
ftp://root:zilch@beyonwizt2

iannrob · Post by **iannrob** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:07

Grumpy_Geoff wrote:
iannrob wrote:
MrQuade wrote:
iannrob wrote: Does not work Firefox says cant access
Substitute your T3's IP address for the but that says "beyonwizt3" then.

You must either be using a static IP address, using an external DNS server, or your router's DNS may not be working properly.
Totally blacked out here on the sunshine coast so not able to proceed at the moment. The only thing having trouble is the T3 all the other technology attached to the router is operating OK. The T3 was operating OK until the firmware update. I was using static IP addresses for the PC and T3 but disabled them as part of the troubleshooting, the reboot did not change anything, still same problems
AFAIK, you haven't answered these questions I asked earlier, so when you get power back -
Is Samba running on your T3? Check MENU -> Setup -> Network -> Samba
Can you ping the T3 by name? - "ping beyonwizt3' in a Windows command prompt

On your T3, what does MENU -> Information -> Network report for both 'Hostname:' and 'IP:'?
Using the above network info, do these work in a Windows command prompt -
Samba access by hostname - "start \\beyonwizt3" (or "start \\{reported Hostname}")
Samba access by IP address - "start \\{reported IP address}"

Thanks for your help. I will try your suggestions as soon as power restored. No indication as to when that will be.

KevinG · Post by **KevinG** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:11

niloc wrote:Like other's posting here I too am unable to have my T4 read the update on USB. I have searched this topic for solutions but I have not found anything that works.
I've tried booting the T4 with the unziped files on 4 different sticks two of which were Fat32, 1Gb and 8 Gb. Both pretty old as suggested in an earlier post but that's all I have.

Maybe Beyonwiz can provide something that works for everyone?

Any other suggestions welcome.

Regards,
Col

I was putting zip file on usb then unzipping, created a Beyonwiz file under the zip (after 5 sticks I worked out what was wrong), moved this folder to root of stick and worked fine

vader1111 · Post by **vader1111** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:56

Upgraded the T2 last night. Didn't quite go as advertised....

The biggest problem was the complete lack of display during the process. The T2 doesn't have a front interface, and the HDMI connection to the TV never got going. I'm assuming that was due to the nature of the connection: T2->HDMI Switch->Amp->TV.

This made knowing when to press the up button a bit tricky (I was too slow the first couple of times - waiting for the TV's HDMI connection to wake up). I had no idea at all when the process had completed - the instructions said it should take 5-10 min, so I gave it about 20 before doing the reboot.

The T2 came back to life, as expected, at the end of the process. I like the new WebIF interface. Haven't really noticed many other changes so far.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 13:28

vader1111 wrote: The biggest problem was the complete lack of display during the process. The T2 doesn't have a front interface, and the HDMI connection to the TV never got going. I'm assuming that was due to the nature of the connection: T2->HDMI Switch->Amp->TV.

Your experience might be similar to that of kazz who did get a display, but was distorted.

Something about your equipment doesn't like 576i PAL mode via HDMI perhaps?
I take it then you have never seen the big Beyonwiz logo on the black background that shows before the bubble screen when the T2 boots?

What happens if you go into the settings of the running T2 and set its video output to 576i? Does it show anything on screen then?

vader1111 · Post by **vader1111** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 14:45

MrQuade wrote:
vader1111 wrote: The biggest problem was the complete lack of display during the process. The T2 doesn't have a front interface, and the HDMI connection to the TV never got going. I'm assuming that was due to the nature of the connection: T2->HDMI Switch->Amp->TV.
Your experience might be similar to that of kazz who did get a display, but was distorted.

Something about your equipment doesn't like 576i PAL mode via HDMI perhaps?
I take it then you have never seen the big Beyonwiz logo on the black background that shows before the bubble screen when the T2 boots?

What happens if you go into the settings of the running T2 and set its video output to 576i? Does it show anything on screen then?

There's a screen before the bubbles?

Will give it a go over the weekend. I'm a bit wary though.. is there a way of changing the output back, if the screen goes black I change the output to 576i? Can I change the screen resolution using WebIF, if all else fails?

All I got was a message from the TV saying that it was "Searching for Connection". In other words, it wasn't receiving a signal on the HDMI channel.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 15:09

vader1111 wrote: There's a screen before the bubbles?

Yep. Guess that answers that question

.

vader1111 wrote: Will give it a go over the weekend. I'm a bit wary though.. is there a way of changing the output back, if the screen goes black I change the output to 576i? Can I change the screen resolution using WebIF, if all else fails?

Yea. It's exactly the same as when you change resolution on a PC. It displays a popup window to ask "is this resolution ok?" and will time out to "No" if you don't respond. Those sorts of things always have to be designed as fail-safe.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 15:56

MrQuade wrote:
vader1111 wrote: There's a screen before the bubbles?
Yep. Guess that answers that question .

Specifically, the first screen shows the Beyonwiz "power button" logo:

But with a black background.

tb123 · Post by **tb123** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 16:00

tb123 wrote:
MrQuade wrote:
tb123 wrote: No, it is just set as static in the T4, just as it always has been and all of my other devices including a DP Lote and DP-P2.
It is set as 192.168.10.36 in the dhcp table of the router. I cannot ping either .36 OR .202 from a laptop, just get Destination Unreachable. My router is set to auto restart each night at midnight (unrelated to any of this), not sure if that might cause an issue, it shouldn't though?
Strange that the webif says "via 192.168.10.1".

It makes a bit more sense in this case anyway. Your Wiz was probably assigned a DHCP address of .36 when it first booted following the update. You then set the static 202 address.

Now for some reason the router has confused the two. I suspect that if you took the router out of the loop, things would work better. Try rebooting it now rather than waiting until this evening to see if it helps.
Yes, on initial boot it would have got .36 as DHCP and then changed to static. I have rebooted the router but it is still the same, set to .202, can only access via .36 but cannot ping it.

EDIT: I changed it back to DHCP and got a .28 address, changed it back to static .202 and it's ok now. I couldn't get to it via http://beyonwizt4 before either, I can now.

cheers

So, I'm back to not being able to access the T4 again by it's static IP address x.x.x.202. I checked the DHCP table in the router and it now has x.x.x.32 which I can ping and access the web page. I have just set the mac of the T4 as a static address in the router as well, but I've never had to do that before for anything, ever. Something has changed in the T4 with this latest update.

I'm not sure which device has the issue though the T4 or my router. FWIW I have around 10 other AV devices on the network all in the x.x.x.2xx range without problems. My DHCP range is .20 to .190

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 16:32

tb123 wrote:... Something has changed in the T4 with this latest update. ... I'm not sure which device has the issue though the T4 or my router. ...

So is it definitely the Beyonwiz, or could it be either the Beyonwiz or the router?

You need to be clearer about just what you mean by a "static IP address". This can be interpreted as two different things:

The Beyonwiz uses DHCP to get its network address, but the router has been set to maintain a fixed mapping from the Beyonwiz's MAC (Ethernet) address to its IP address. In this case the IP address should be inside the range of IP addresses managed by the DHCP server in the router. Or
You manually set the IP address of the Beyonwiz in MENU>Setup>Network>Network interface, and do nothing on the router. In this case the IP address should be outside the range of IP addresses managed by the DHCP server in the router.

I use the first method, and it works just fine in the new firmware for my Beyonwizes (Fritz!Box 7390 router).

tb123 · Post by **tb123** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 16:45

prl wrote:
tb123 wrote:... Something has changed in the T4 with this latest update. ... I'm not sure which device has the issue though the T4 or my router. ...
So is it definitely the Beyonwiz, or could it be either the Beyonwiz or the router?

You need to be clearer about just what you mean by a "static IP address". This can be interpreted as two different things:
The Beyonwiz uses DHCP to get its network address, but the router has been set to maintain a fixed mapping from the Beyonwiz's MAC (Ethernet) address to its IP address. In this case the IP address should be inside the range of IP addresses managed by the DHCP server in the router. Or

You manually set the IP address of the Beyonwiz in MENU>Setup>Network>Network interface, and do nothing on the router. In this case the IP address should be outside the range of IP addresses managed by the DHCP server in the router.
I use the first method, and it works just fine in the new firmware for my Beyonwizes (Fritz!Box 7390 router).

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Ok, so the way I have always done it is set my DHCP range in the router from x.x.x.20 to x.x.x.190 and then in each individual device set a static address outside of the DHCP range of x,x,x,200, .201, .202 etc for my AV gear and it has always worked that way.

At the moment I have a static address set in the Beyonwiz of 192.168.10.202. For some reason even though it is set, the router (Billion 8800AXL) is assigning a DHCP address to it. I cannot access the box via the static address, but can via the assigned DHCP address even though when I view the device info via webif it shows the static one.

I have just set a static address map to the mac address in the router of 192.168.10.202, but from what I think you have just said, that address "needs" to be within the DHCP scope? I've never used that feature before, would you normally leave the T4 as dhcp in that case and the router will always give it the corect address within the dhcp scope?

EDIT: I've just extended the DHCP scope of the router to x.x.x.240 and set the T4 as DHCP. It picked up the .202 address, so will see how it goes. But I've never had issues setting up static addresses before, including the T4 prior to the latest upgrade.

vader1111 · Post by **vader1111** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 16:50

prl wrote:
MrQuade wrote:
vader1111 wrote: There's a screen before the bubbles?
Yep. Guess that answers that question .
Specifically, the first screen shows the Beyonwiz "power button" logo:

But with a black background.

Just tested it.. 576i works just fine, but there's no sign of that "power button" logo on startup.

iannrob · Post by **iannrob** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 17:03

Grumpy_Geoff wrote:
iannrob wrote:
MrQuade wrote:
iannrob wrote: Does not work Firefox says cant access
Substitute your T3's IP address for the but that says "beyonwizt3" then.

You must either be using a static IP address, using an external DNS server, or your router's DNS may not be working properly.
Totally blacked out here on the sunshine coast so not able to proceed at the moment. The only thing having trouble is the T3 all the other technology attached to the router is operating OK. The T3 was operating OK until the firmware update. I was using static IP addresses for the PC and T3 but disabled them as part of the troubleshooting, the reboot did not change anything, still same problems
AFAIK, you haven't answered these questions I asked earlier, so when you get power back -
Is Samba running on your T3? Check MENU -> Setup -> Network -> Samba
Can you ping the T3 by name? - "ping beyonwizt3' in a Windows command prompt

On your T3, what does MENU -> Information -> Network report for both 'Hostname:' and 'IP:'?
Using the above network info, do these work in a Windows command prompt -
Samba access by hostname - "start \\beyonwizt3" (or "start \\{reported Hostname}")
Samba access by IP address - "start \\{reported IP address}"

1. Samba is running
2. ping beyonwizt3 does not work
3. Using hostname and IP from Menu>Info with the \\start{} does not work. Network error, windows cannot access IP or hostname from command prompt.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 17:05

tb123 wrote:...
At the moment I have a static address set in the Beyonwiz of 192.168.10.202. For some reason even though it is set, the router (Billion 8800AXL) is assigning a DHCP address to it. I cannot access the box via the static address, but can via the assigned DHCP address even though when I view the device info via webif it shows the static one.

If the router has assigned a DHCP address to the Beyonwiz (rather than you setting up a DHCP fixed mapping on the router), it's because the Beyonwiz used DHCP to ask the router to assign it an IP address. That may have been a once-off thing while it was being set up. It's hard to know, because there are lots of variables and it's still a bit unclear quite what you've done.

tb123 wrote:I have just set a static address map to the mac address in the router of 192.168.10.202, but from what I think you have just said, that address "needs" to be within the DHCP scope? I've never used that feature before, would you normally leave the T4 as dhcp in that case and the router will always give it the corect address within the dhcp scope?

The way I've always done this on the routers I've had is simply to allow the router to assign an IP address to a device, and then tell the router to always use that IP address for the device. That means that the IP address will always be in the address range managed by DHCP, and that's where all IP addresses handed out by DHCP should be.

The advantage of using DHCP to manage even fixed IP addresses is that it's all central, device setup is easier, and DHCP will make sure that other networking parameters, like the netmask, will be set consistently on devices by the router.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 17:06

tb123 wrote: I have just set a static address map to the mac address in the router of 192.168.10.202, but from what I think you have just said, that address "needs" to be within the DHCP scope? I've never used that feature before, would you normally leave the T4 as dhcp in that case and the router will always give it the corect address within the dhcp scope?

A little off topic, but worth mentioning. This is an ideal way to set up your IPs rather than by static assignment in the device itself. If done this way, the router is better able to match the DHCP assigned IP with the device's DNS name, and enables all your devices to refer to each-other by name rather than IP.

And to answer your question, it can depend on your router, but the assigned IP doesn't necessarily need to be inside the dynamic DHCP scope. In my router, I have addresses 192.168.0.10 to 192.168.0.50 allocated as dynamic addresses, and then all other devices are statically assigned by DHCP outside of this range.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 17:15

tb123 wrote: Ok, so the way I have always done it is set my DHCP range in the router from x.x.x.20 to x.x.x.190 and then in each individual device set a static address outside of the DHCP range of x,x,x,200, .201, .202 etc for my AV gear and it has always worked that way.
...

EDIT: I've just extended the DHCP scope of the router to x.x.x.240 and set the T4 as DHCP. It picked up the .202 address, so will see how it goes. But I've never had issues setting up static addresses before, including the T4 prior to the latest upgrade.

All the above being said, I will do some experimentation with an address statically assigned in my T4 to see if I can reproduce the problems you are describing. It definitely sounds peculiar. Either there is a DHCP setting "stuck" in the T4 despite the address being set manually, or your router is doing something odd (hard to see how since it has worked fine till now).

tb123 · Post by **tb123** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 17:26

prl wrote: If the router has assigned a DHCP address to the Beyonwiz (rather than you setting up a DHCP fixed mapping on the router), it's because the Beyonwiz used DHCP to ask the router to assign it an IP address. That may have been a once-off thing while it was being set up. It's hard to know, because there are lots of variables and it's still a bit unclear quite what you've done.

After the USB upgrade, when setting up the network on the T4, it was assigned an address of 192.168.10.36 via dhcp as this happened prior to me being able to change the T4 to a static address of .202. It was ok like this until the next day when for some reason the T4 stopped responding to .202.

Every device has a default to receive an address via DHCP and you then change it to a static address manually during the setup process. So presumably every device, as soon it is plugged into a network will get a dhcp address at some point when it is first connected.
I have my desktop, printer and NAS in the .2 to .19 range, then DHCP pool .20 to .190 (for all of the mobile devices that come and go from the network), then all my AV devices are .200 to .2xx

raymondjpg · Post by **raymondjpg** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 17:56

Grumpy_Geoff wrote:For a 'no faffing around' access - use browser FTP access (or rich client FTP access).
With browser access, it's easy to read log & config files
ftp://root:zilch@beyonwizt2

Yes, that works for me too, particularly as now I have Guest access to Root any old login credentials will work!

I still prefer access via the Windows file manager (some call Explorer) particularly as I can call up a text editor of choice there if need be.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 18:06

raymondjpg wrote:
Grumpy_Geoff wrote:For a 'no faffing around' access - use browser FTP access (or rich client FTP access).
With browser access, it's easy to read log & config files
ftp://root:zilch@beyonwizt2
Yes, that works for me too, particularly as now I have Guest access to Root any old login credentials will work! ...

The FTP authentication is independent of Windows share authentication. The default FTP authentication for root has no password (the "zilch" in GrumpyGeoff's URL can be anything you like). If you want a root password for that (and other things like telnet), you need to set that password in MENU>Setup>Network>Password.

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