Request for updates for channel picons

dRdoS7 · Post by **dRdoS7** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 19:27

Hi,

prl wrote:From its Wikipedia entry, it appears that 7flix will launch on the Sunshine Coast as well as the state capitals (other than Hobart). The entry for Ten HD only mentions Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth, but dRdoS7's Geelong data also has Ten HD in it.

Geelong is a re-transmission of Melbourne.

dRdoS7

prl · Post by **prl** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 13:21

I have submitted the TEN HD and 7flix picon data for Adelaide, Brisbane, Geelong, Melbourne, Perth, Sunshine Coast and Sydney to the repository.

I don't have the required data for some regionals (e.g. some of the STQ stations in Queensland) that will be getting 7flix. Data for that may filter through later when I start getting updates for WIN HD.

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:13

While a number of posts that contain data for picon setup for new channels were lost in the forum outage yesterday Mon 6 Mar, I have copies of all that data on my computer, so none of that data was lost, and there's no need to repost

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:26

The recent online beta releases contain all the picon updates for the recent changes in Ten, Seven, STQ and NBN.

Today I intend to submit the data I've collected for WIN so far. Any further updates or new data sets for regions that aren't yet covered will, of course, be accepted and be submitted to the picon repository, but they may not make the next release.

The current state of the region picon updates is:

The "state of play" for updates is:

I have up-to-date data for:
Adelaide
Bendigo
Brisbane
Canberra
Central Coast
Geelong
Gold Coast
Hobart
Melbourne
Newcastle
Northern Rivers NSW
Orange
Perth
SpencerGulfSA
Sunshine Coast
Sydney
Toowoomba
Townsville
Warrnambool
Wide Bay

I still don't have up-to-date data for:
Albany WA
Ballarat
Launceston
Wollongong

ad · Post by ad » Mon Mar 07, 2016 16:43

Is there an update for Hobart yet?

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 16:50

ad wrote:Is there an update for Hobart yet?

prl wrote:I still don't have up-to-date data for:
...
Hobart

The post immediately before yours.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 19:45

In other words, prl needs you to send him the data.

Follow the instructions here:
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=9355#p124843

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 21:59

prl has submitted another picon update. It was merged into current beta and it will be rolled out overnight.

Thanks.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:00

The update is now available.

It adds picons to the newly-rearranged WIN services in the locations I received data for, has long-awaited updates for Wide Bay and Bendigo and adds Townsville to the list of areas that have picon data.

mac37 · Post by **mac37** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:14

All Picons look great for the Sunshine Coast - thanks prl.

Includes all new WIN stuff plus Bris and local 7flix (76 & 66) and Bris 10HD (13) - All receivable on Sunshine Coast.

Great work.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:20

Do USB updates over write settings? I have a T2 (disk less) set up to use my T4 disc. If I do a back up on T2 it appears to overwrite my T4 backup.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:30

Trial_Master wrote:Do USB updates over write settings? I have a T2 (disk less) set up to use my T4 disc. If I do a back up on T2 it appears to overwrite my T4 backup.

Yes, it is likely that the backup location is the same as your T4's backup location if you are sharing the same harddisk.

You can customise the backup location directory by going into your T2's plugins browser, and selecting the Software manager (from memory). from there, the destination directory for backups can be customised (I think from the "Advanced" section).

You can either create a new folder on the T4's harddisk, or backup your settings to USB.

And yes, USB updates will overwrite your settings. You will need to manually restore the settings following the upgrade (the initial setup wizard will not let you do it).

This is why it is a fairly good idea to have some sort of storage, however small, installed in the T2. A small SSD (120GB) for around $60 makes for a good drive to store settings backups, 3rd party plugins and patches, and also act as a local timeshift device.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:39

Ok I'll see if I can find the drive I had on H1. It makes sense I guess

Thanks for clearing up the back up issue.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 13:37

MrQuade wrote:You can customise the backup location directory by going into your T2's plugins browser, and selecting the Software manager (from memory). from there, the destination directory for backups can be customised (I think from the "Advanced" section).

That's awesome thanks! I was just on the phone to Beyonwiz to work out how to change Backup location, shame I didn't read your post properly first. Anyway had them stumped and suggestion was to ask here. I'm just about to update both boxes to beta firmware now,

Thanks for all of your assistance. I've learnt more again today

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 13:48

MrQuade wrote:...
You can customise the backup location directory by going into your T2's plugins browser, and selecting the Software manager (from memory). from there, the destination directory for backups can be customised (I think from the "Advanced" section).
...

From liveTV, PLUGIN>Software management>Advanced options>Select backup location.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 14:27

mac37 wrote:All Picons look great for the Sunshine Coast - thanks prl.

Includes all new WIN stuff plus Bris and local 7flix (76 & 66) and Bris 10HD (13) - All receivable on Sunshine Coast.

Great work.

Did you use beyonwiz-4.4 20160125 beta firmware? I just updated and my logos for 7flix and TenHD are still missing?

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 14:29

Hi Trial_Master,

Have you checked the icons against the channels in the "Terrestrial TV LCN" bouquet? If they are not correct there then you should rescan your channels and test again.

Regards,
Ian.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 14:49

Just tried those steps and no change?

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 14:57

Hi Trial_Master,

Try a manual scan for each of the problem broadcasters and enable the "Clear before scan" option. See if that helps.

Regards,
Ian.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 15:03

Just did the channel 7 channels and no change. Rebooted pvr and still no change?

I am using the correct beta software aren't I?

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 15:03

Trial_Master wrote: Did you use beyonwiz-4.4 20160125 beta firmware? I just updated and my logos for 7flix and TenHD are still missing?

If you're still on the January beta then you haven't had any online updates - see Switching your software feed to a live beta
The picon updates are in the 7-Mar beta

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 15:06

That will be it. Thanks I'll get onto it.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 15:21

Trial_Master wrote:... Did you use beyonwiz-4.4 20160125 beta firmware? I just updated and my logos for 7flix and TenHD are still missing?

What firmware version? The new picon setup is only in recent beta updates. The most recent update is 2016-03-07 11:59.
7flix and TEN HD links should definitely be there for Brisbane. These updates are not in the 20160125 beta firmware firmware, but in an online update from that firmware. To get beta online updates you need to follow the instructions in Switching your software feed to a live beta. When you've done the steps in those instructions, reboot or restart the GUI and wait for it to do the automatic scan for updates (or do MENU>Setup>Software manager>Check for updates now) Reloading beta firmware from USB turns off the live beta update feed.

If you were already running the 2016-03-07 11:59 beta, or updating doesn't get the new picons:

In live TV change service to 7flix, then MENU>Settings>Information>Service. The bottom line of the screen should be "Service reference" with a string of colon-separated hex and decimal numbers. What is it?

Then the same for TEN HD.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 15:34

Hi Peter. I installed the January beta via USB today and didn't realise there was the additional process for a live beta stream. My silly.

I have the T4 working fine with new icons now and am about to do same with T2.

Been a big day of learning but I've really enjoyed it. Thanks for the new icons looks much better now.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 16:17

Glad it's sorted

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 16:57

Hi Trial_Master,

Sorry I miss-read your first post. I thought you had 20160125 beta and just updated to the latest (March) beta.

Anyway it sound like you have it all sorted now.

Regards,
Ian.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 17:18

IanSav wrote:Hi Trial_Master,

Sorry I miss-read your first post. I thought you had 20160125 beta and just updated to the latest (March) beta.

Anyway it sound like you have it all sorted now.

Regards,
Ian.

It was more likely my lack of understanding and explanation of issue that caused the confusion. Thanks for helping out!

mac37 · Post by **mac37** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 23:28

Hi Trial Master,

Sorry I didn't reply, I've been in Brisbane all day - should have called in !!
You have by now obviously found last nights beta update, and all the new picons.

All the best.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 06:13

Hi Mac

Got there eventually and everything is working perfectly, thanks to all the regular friendly folk here.

stevebow · Post by **stevebow** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 08:14

Any sign yet down the track of getting the new picons via a stable release?

Steve

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 09:47

Hi Steve,

I think we are coming close to a new stable release.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 09:55

There was more changed in the recent betas than just the picons, so it's about the stability of those changes as well as any problems with the picon data. So far there's been one bug found and fixed in the recent code changes, and no problems found in the picons (other than problems due to re-scanning for some of the channel changes being more complicated than usual).

Sir Lancelot · Post by **Sir Lancelot** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:32

Hi Pri

Latest picon update all good with one exception, there was no Channel 10 HD picon in the download for the Gold Coast area.

If needs-be I can just do a scan for channel 10 network for the Gold Coast area and post to you.
Thanks.

Regards
Lance

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:30

Sir Lancelot wrote:... Latest picon update all good with one exception, there was no Channel 10 HD picon in the download for the Gold Coast area.

There is a picon link for Ten HD in the Gold Coast data I have, but is the same serviceref as for Brisbane. I'm not sure whether that is correct.

Sir Lancelot wrote:If needs-be I can just do a scan for channel 10 network for the Gold Coast area and post to you.

I'd prefer a complete scan rather than just Ten, because then I'm sure I have everything up-to-date.

But before you do that, could you check the servicerefs you have for Ten channels?

In live TV, change channels to Ten Digital (not HD), then go to MENU>Setup>Information>Service. What is the displayed Service reference at the bottom of the list in the screen?

Then do the same for Ten HD, and post the servicerefs and the corresponding names.

Just as an aside, when you scanned for Ten HD, did you get any duplicates (LCNs >= 350) in Terrestrial TV LCN? If there are, the problem may be caused by how the scan was done, rather than with the picon setup.

Sir Lancelot · Post by **Sir Lancelot** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 14:56

Hi Pri

Thanks for your reply.
I checked the service refs as you suggested and found them to be different.
Then I checked for duplicate LCN's in the Terrestrial TV LCN, found that I had used a channel 10 in my bouquet, and surprisingly it came up as a high definition picture, just the same as channel 13.
Deleted channel 10 Ten from my bouquet and added channel 13 to it. Works perfectly with exactly the same quality picture (1920x1080i 50Hz) complete with the 10HD picon.
Thanks again Pri, your comment about looking in the Terrstrial LCN gave me the clue.

Your help to a 77 year old is much appreciated.

Regards
Lance

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 14:58

Picon update from earlier today has been merged and pushed out to the beta feed.

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 15:34

This latest picon update updates the Ten Digital picon file. It doesn't update or add any broadcast areas.

ad · Post by ad » Fri Mar 11, 2016 06:53

Here is the Hobart file. Compresses with WinRAR as a ZIP file. Hope it works.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 09:43

Thanks, ad. There's no need to provide scan data from different models. The two files you included were identical (and correct).

jas555 · Post by **jas555** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 21:50

just updated to the beta firmware and Switched to the live beta feed. i now have all the picons for my channels. my T4 looks so much better with the picons. thanks prl appreciate it.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 22:03

Thanks, jas555.

NoDeity · Post by **NoDeity** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 15:11

Here's Toowoomba's XML from both the T3 and T4 as requested

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 15:40

Thanks, Nodeity. I'll be busy on RL stuff the next few days. I probably won't get to look at it properly until the weekend.

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 15:49

Slightly OT but where does OpenWebif get its icons from?

Just noticing it is missing a couple and the updated ones too.

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 16:07

Gully wrote:Slightly OT but where does OpenWebif get its icons from?

Just noticing it is missing a couple and the updated ones too.

Where in OpenWebif? I just tried OpenWebif Main>Television>Current while tuned to WIN HD, WIN LIFE and SBS NITV in Canberra (2 new channels and 1 new picon for an older channel) and all the picons there are OK, so I assume it ultimately gets the picons from the same place as the PVR does, /picon.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 16:11

I can see new Logos for both 7Flix and TenHD in OpenWebif Main>Television>Current

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 16:24

Sorry I should have included TV Multi EPG is where I was looking. But if I use current and go to NITV, I still get the old logo and go to EPG under Television still has the same problem.

I just get an OpenWebif icon for any that are missing.

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 16:32

Could be a browser caching problem. Try forcing a refresh of the pages that have the wrong/missing picons, or if that doesn't work, try clearing the browser cache.

I also see all the up-to-date picons in OpenWebif TV Multi EPG.

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 16:48

Thanks Peter but doesn't look like that is the problem/solution.

Did a cache clear to no effect and even used the Edge browser which I never use and it has the same icons missing.

Any other ideas?

Any one else seeing this?

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