Request for updates for channel picons

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 18:58

Sorry no idea, and there seems to be very little real information about exactly where 9Gem HD is available. I thought that YourMoney was going to be shut down completely.

Canberra doesn't have 9Gem 9HD, but it didn't have YourMoney, either.

dRdoS7 · Post by **dRdoS7** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 20:15

Hi,

prl wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 08, 2019 09:19

dRdoS7 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:39
Here's Gold Coast: Gold Coast.tgz

Got it. Thanks. Looks good.

Do you create the .tgz files using a script? If so, could you make the directory name the same as the tar file base name?

I used Grumpy's script, and as I was using a remote, I used "gc" as the location. After transferring the gc.tgz to my tablet, renamed it to "Gold Coast.tgz". I'll copy the folder and file, then rename, and then zip it on the tablet instead, dispensing with the .tgz creation in future.

dRdoS7.

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 21:09

prl wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 08, 2019 16:26

Grumpy_Geoff wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 08, 2019 15:08
Perhaps they've not bothered with a new watermark since the service is set to disappear once the cricket finishes (so we understand).

I can't find anything much that says anything definite about the life expectancy of 9Gem HD. The short item on TVTonight perhaps implies that it's just for the Ashes (but Nine has a press release about the Women's Ashes on 9Gem HD, so not just the men's Ashes). The Wikipedia entry for 9Gem says that it was introduced for coverage of the Ashes, but doesn't seem to imply "and only for the Ashes".

I found a couple of other articles about 9Gem HD, but they were no more enlightening.

According to mediaspy:
"A spokesperson for NINE has told me “the current plan” is for 9GEMHD to operate until the end of The Ashes. Of course this could potentially change depending on audience response.
https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-ente ... co/528/427
However reliable that post is though is another matter.

Oh, same dude posting here -
"UPDATE: A spokesperson for NINE has advised TV Blackbox the current plan is for 9GEMHD to be available until the end of of The Ashes."
https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2019/6/2 ... -the-ashes

I did remember reading it in a couple of places it was only until the cricket finished.

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 00:05

For those not on the beta feed and not using IanSav's feed server plugin, if you want the updated picons, see steps below.

Use a browser to download the picon package from IanSav's feed server using the below link:
https://iansav.bitbucket.io/feeds/Beyon ... r1_all.ipk

To install the picon package on the Wiz, use one of these methods -

Save the package to a USB, sneaker-net the USB to the Wiz and plug it in, choose 'Install extensions.' when prompted, highlight the picon package and press OK to select it for install, then GREEN/Install.
Transfer the package to the Wiz using FTP, Windows File Explorer, et. al., then use File Commander (or opkg command) to install the package.
wget the package directly, then use opkg to install

Best to reboot or at least restart the GUI.
I used the package to update our T2 as it is still on the 17.5-series f/w.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:42

Firmware 19.3.20190708 released overnight should have my recent picon updates for these regionals: Wollongong, Tamworth, Northern Rivers NSW, Gold Coast, Wagga Wagga, Albury (commercial broadcasters only) & Taree.

malibu91 · Post by **malibu91** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 14:43

It seems I'm getting update notifications almost daily?

Is this because you are uploading picons to the feed regularly...not that it's an issue.
Just curious.

Cheers
Jules

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 15:25

malibu91 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 14:43
Is this because you are uploading picons to the feed regularly...not that it's an issue.
Just curious.

If you have switched to the 19.3 series firmware beta feed, then you will get regular updates as new features and fixes are applied. It's definitely not unusual to be getting daily (or more frequent) updates when on the beta feed early on in the beta cycle.

If you have registered on any other feeds then you will receive updates from those whenever the maintainer pushes out updates. I'm not on IanSav's picon feed, so not sure what may be coming through on that,

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 15:39

MrQuade wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 15:25

malibu91 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 14:43
Is this because you are uploading picons to the feed regularly...not that it's an issue.
Just curious.
If you have switched to the 19.3 series firmware beta feed, then you will get regular updates as new features and fixes are applied. It's definitely not unusual to be getting daily (or more frequent) updates when on the beta feed early on in the beta cycle.

I don't think there's been any since Tuesday morning's 20190708 update though.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 16:13

Grumpy_Geoff wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 15:39
I don't think there's been any since Tuesday morning's 20190708 update though.

I thought there was one lashing away on the Wiz when I got home from work yesterday afternoon, but my memory may be playing tricks.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 16:45

There have been two online updates since 2090630 from the official feeds that have contained picon updates. I'm not sure how many there have been from IanSav's feed. That may be three picon updates.

The first update in the official feeds had new san data from most of the metro areas and constructed 9Gem HD and World Movies data for the rest, and the second one updated some regional areas with new scan data.

Because rhe process to update the regionals took a couple of days, IanSav's feed may have sone two updates for that.

adoxa · Post by **adoxa** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 16:52

Looks like VICELAND is still called "SBS VICELAND HD", but the watermark is just "VICELAND" (no HD). Maybe the picon should remove HD, too?

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 17:10

prl wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 16:45
Because rhe process to update the regionals took a couple of days, IanSav's feed may have sone two updates for that.

IanSav's feed for the picon package is still the same as when I posted the direct URL for it on Mon 8-Jul 22:05 (AWT).
That package also matches the one in the 20190708 firmware (i.e. your "regional" update).

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 17:20

I don't know how the packages in the alternate feed are generated, but I would not be surprised if they caused issues due to versioning inconsistencies. The filename pattern I noticed in one of the posted URLs does not match the patterns used by the Beyonwiz feeds. The packaging system is only self-consistent when all the installed packages come from a completed build run. To maintain installation consistency, every package needs to originate from a single self-consistent feed. If you have multiple feeds supplying the same package (and with different versioning scheme), you can expect subtle and unsubtle problems.

stephenh · Post by **stephenh** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 17:54

peteru wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 17:20
If you have multiple feeds supplying the same package (and with different versioning scheme), you can expect subtle and unsubtle problems.

Does this present something of a quandary for those of us wanting to be on the 19.3 Beta feed but also wanting to be on the IanSav feed for (other) updates such as OverlayHD? I've (in blissful ignorance) had them both enabled since way back somewhere in the beta 17.5 days and haven't noticed any issues, but that doesn't mean there weren't any or won't be any I guess. Any advice from the gurus?

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 17:57

adoxa wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 16:52
Looks like VICELAND is still called "SBS VICELAND HD", but the watermark is just "VICELAND" (no HD). Maybe the picon should remove HD, too?

Might be worth holding off as even SBS uses both names.

Regardless it is a HD service so no real issue leaving it.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 18:15

I still have the VICELAND picon image file, so it's simple to change the picons from VICELAND HD to VICELAND.

Perhaps if we wait a little while to see whether that's a permanent decision from SBS.

Logopedia is still flagging the VICELAND HD picon as "2019-present", and Jasmeet_181 hasn't changed his image file for VICEMAND HD, either.

SBS's EPG, though, is showing the stacked version of the VICELAND picon for SBS VICELAND, and I just saw a VICELAND station promo that just used the VICELAND logo.

But if SBS sticks with that branding, I'm happy to make the change.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 18:29

Hi,

In my opinion there should be little problem or implication of using my feed. It is not updated frequently. There has been only one recent picon update offering. The picons are extracted directly from Prl's updates from the Beyonwiz repository but they are built by OpenViX.

I am more than happy to stop serving the picon updates. I only serve them as a service to Beyonwiz users who don't want to run beta firmware but want the latest picons. (I would have thought that Beyonwiz should have arranged more timely picon updates for Beyonwiz users by now.)

The Australian picons and OverlayHD updates are available on the OE-Alliance feeds but that will not help Beyonwiz users at this time. If PeterU would like me to stop serving picons then he could ask. The scare tactics are, in my opinion, unnecessary.

Regards,
Ian.

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 18:47

peteru wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 17:20
If you have multiple feeds supplying the same package (and with different versioning scheme), you can expect subtle and unsubtle problems.

As far as I can tell, the same versioning scheme is used in both the IanSav feed server picon package and in the 20190708 firmware update - with the exception of the "release" (r1 c.f. r1.0).

T2 on old firmware, with the picons updated using the file directly downloaded from IanSav's feed server -

Code: Select all

root@beyonwizt2:~# grep build /etc/image-version
build=20180417
root@beyonwizt2:~# opkg list-installed *picons*
enigma2-plugin-picons-tv-australia - 3.0+git290+20a9a71-r1
root@beyonwizt2:~#

U4 as updated by 20190708 -

Code: Select all

root@beyonwizu4:~# grep -e '^build=' /etc/image-version
build=20190708
root@beyonwizu4:~# opkg list-installed *picons*
enigma2-plugin-picons-tv-australia - 3.0+git290+20a9a71-r1.0
root@beyonwizu4:~#

This is not an immediate concern for me, as eventually the T2 will be USB-flashed with the 19.3-series firmware.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 18:49

Hi Ian

If you discontinue your service I will reevaluate my commitment to Beyonwiz as PVR. I am not running beta software for picons which I agree Beyonwiz should manage in a timely manner if they can’t be obtained from free to air and Ice Tv.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 20:55

Hi Trial_Master,

Trial_Master wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 18:49
If you discontinue your service I will reevaluate my commitment to Beyonwiz as PVR. I am not running beta software for picons which I agree Beyonwiz should manage in a timely manner if they can’t be obtained from free to air and Ice Tv.

I am sorry that fellow users are being exposed to this nonsense.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 16:12

Gully wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 17:57

adoxa wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2019 16:52
Looks like VICELAND is still called "SBS VICELAND HD", but the watermark is just "VICELAND" (no HD). Maybe the picon should remove HD, too?
Might be worth holding off as even SBS uses both names.

Regardless it is a HD service so no real issue leaving it.

It looks like SBS is sticking to leaving the "HD" off their VICELAND HD logo.

Shall I change the picon to remove the "HD", too?

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 17:42

prl wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 15, 2019 16:12
It looks like SBS is sticking to leaving the "HD" off their VICELAND HD logo.

Shall I change the picon to remove the "HD", too?

Guess so.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 17:44

Hi Prl,

I think the picon indicating that the service is a HD service is informative albeit not accurate. I would suggest you keep the HD version of the picon in place.

Regards,
Ian.

stephenh · Post by **stephenh** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 18:06

My ten cents ... I think the picon should reflect the actual channel name/logo that is used by the "owner" so I'd be for dropping the "HD" if SBS has done that, but always grateful for all the work you all do and that the picons get updated at all, so happy to go with whatever the consensus is!

Paul_oz53 · Post by **Paul_oz53** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 21:22

stephenh wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 15, 2019 18:06
My ten cents ... I think the picon should reflect the actual channel name/logo that is used by the "owner" so I'd be for dropping the "HD" if SBS has done that, but always grateful for all the work you all do and that the picons get updated at all, so happy to go with whatever the consensus is!

Personally, I think the HD is unnecessary but it isn't something I care much about. Appreciate your efforts either way!

adoxa · Post by **adoxa** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 16:23

prl wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 15, 2019 16:12
It looks like SBS is sticking to leaving the "HD" off their VICELAND HD logo.

Shall I change the picon to remove the "HD", too?

FWIW, Freeview guide's logo has no "HD".

Jasmeet_181 · Post by **Jasmeet_181** » Tue Jul 23, 2019 14:04

Openshop
https://openshop.com.au/
https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AGF-l7-_NMW9k3p ... 6XeHtauopw
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Jasme ... enshop.svg

On 8 July, the logos for the Australian Sky News channels were updated to resemble Sky News in the UK.
https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/sky-news-on-win/5478/472
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Jasme ... %20WIN.svg

C31 Melbourne modified their logo on 11 June.
https://www.facebook.com/C31Melbourne/p ... permPage=1
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Jasme ... bourne.svg
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Jasme ... 20Dark.svg

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue Jul 23, 2019 15:24

Thanks, Jasmeet.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:25

I've updated the picon for VICELAND HD to drop the "HD" in the picon (it's now what used to be the VICELAND picon), in line with SBS's branding.

I've updated the Sky News on WIN and C31 Melbourne picons in line with the new branding that Jasmeet_181 has in his TV channel logo repository. Thanks, Jasmeet.

These changes are in the main picon repository.

I have the scripts that construct the picon setup ready to go for when I know what the servicerefs for OpenShop will look like. It's set up assuming that they will be like what's being used for Melbourne, but with variation according to the broadcast area.

I've also asked Daniel Hall at IceTV whether he knows whet form the servicerefs will have. I doubt whether IceTV will be carrying OpenShop EPG data, but he may know anyway.

I will add OpenShop picon info to the repository as soon as I can be reasonably sure that I know what the pattern is for its servicerefs. I'll only be able to do that after I either get the information from Daniel or OpenShop starts broadcasting at least a "coming soon" loop.

stevebow · Post by **stevebow** » Fri Jul 26, 2019 16:46

9 Gem HD is branded as "[9 dots] Gem", without the "HD", at least here in Sydney anyway. If it hasn't been done already, perhaps the "HD" ought to be dropped in line with their branding as well?

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Jul 26, 2019 22:07

Aren't there markets where both 9Gem and 9Gem HD are broadcast?

In any case, it's still not clear whether 9Gem HD will outlast the Ashes this year.

mac37 · Post by **mac37** » Fri Jul 26, 2019 23:40

prl wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 26, 2019 22:07
Aren't there markets where both 9Gem and 9Gem HD are broadcast?

The Brisbane 'GEM's we get on the Sunshine Coast (92 = 9GEM - 95 = 9GEM HD') both show the 9 dots with GEM.
No 'HD' is displayed

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Sat Jul 27, 2019 03:47

Hi,

For those of you using my feed server you will see an update for the Australian picons based on Prl's updates completed on Friday.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 15:18

I have updated the picon repository to add open shop.

I've also tweaked the picon setup to remove some incorrect links for VICELAND HD and 7food network.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 23:12

IanSav wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 27, 2019 03:47
Hi,

For those of you using my feed server you will see an update for the Australian picons based on Prl's updates completed on Friday.

Regards,
Ian.

Thank Ian

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:28

Trial_Master wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 31, 2019 23:12

IanSav wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 27, 2019 03:47
Hi,

For those of you using my feed server you will see an update for the Australian picons based on Prl's updates completed on Friday.

Regards,
Ian.
Thank Ian

Ian's post refers to an earlier set of picon changes, not the ones I did yesterday that include the open shop picon setup. I don't know what the timeline is for them to appear in Ian's picon feed.

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:54

prl wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:28

Ian's post refers to an earlier set of picon changes, not the ones I did yesterday that include the open shop picon setup. I don't know what the timeline is for them to appear in Ian's picon feed.

Given the dates on the posts, he would have needed my help for his posts to include the latest changes and he hadn't asked me at the time.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:51

Hi All,

I will check if the latest picons have been built. I will upload them as soon as I find the package.

Regards,
Ian.

Trial_Master · Post by **Trial_Master** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 16:27

prl wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:28

Trial_Master wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 31, 2019 23:12

IanSav wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 27, 2019 03:47
Hi,

For those of you using my feed server you will see an update for the Australian picons based on Prl's updates completed on Friday.

Regards,
Ian.
Thank Ian

Ian's post refers to an earlier set of picon changes, not the ones I did yesterday that include the open shop picon setup. I don't know what the timeline is for them to appear in Ian's picon feed.

I won't be viewing openshop, although the oslo frypan does sound compelling

prl · Post by **prl** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 14:45

Firmware 20190802 contains all the recent updates to the picon setup, including the openshop picon.

dRdoS7 · Post by **dRdoS7** » Mon Aug 05, 2019 08:05

Hi,

Here's Coffs Harbour:

Coffs Harbour.tgz: (335 Bytes) Downloaded 121 times

dRdoS7

stevebow · Post by **stevebow** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:00

Installed the updated picon repository (f/w 17.5), openshop logos appearing as expected, thanks.

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 21:47

Is there a picon for V2 for SBS World Movies? I'm running beyonwiz 19.3.20190623 (19.3-164-gc406a38).

If so where do you get it and how do you add it?

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:03

netmask wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 09, 2019 21:47
Is there a picon for V2 for SBS World Movies? I'm running beyonwiz 19.3.20190623 (19.3-164-gc406a38).

If so where do you get it and how do you add it?

You need to get the online updates as they will get you the picons as well as lots of worthwhile updates.

If you just want the picon you could install IanSav's feed.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:16

Gully wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:03
You need to get the online updates as they will get you the picons as well as lots of worthwhile updates.

For the V2 you also need to enable the beta feed.

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:22

Gully wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:03

netmask wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 09, 2019 21:47
Is there a picon for V2 for SBS World Movies? I'm running beyonwiz 19.3.20190623 (19.3-164-gc406a38).

If so where do you get it and how do you add it?
You need to get the online updates as they will get you the picons as well as lots of worthwhile updates.

If you just want the picon you could install IanSav's feed.

Alternatively, just grab the picons package and install it -
https://iansav.bitbucket.io/feeds/Beyon ... r1_all.ipk

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:27

MrQuade wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:16
For the V2 you also need to enable the beta feed.

Of course. Not having a V2, I forgot that.

netmask · Post by **netmask** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 08:35

Gully wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 09, 2019 22:03

netmask wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 09, 2019 21:47
Is there a picon for V2 for SBS World Movies? I'm running beyonwiz 19.3.20190623 (19.3-164-gc406a38).

If so where do you get it and how do you add it?
You need to get the online updates as they will get you the picons as well as lots of worthwhile updates.

If you just want the picon you could install IanSav's feed.

Shortly after I got the V2 there was an on line update but none available since..

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 09:57

netmask wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 10, 2019 08:35

Shortly after I got the V2 there was an on line update but none available since..

As-per my previous comment. All subsequent V2 updates are on the beta feed only so far.

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