Supported File Types List - Unofficial

[DaveR]

Supported File Types List - Unofficial

List of file types that can be played by a Beyonwiz with the current firmware (01.05.320 and 01.07.031)

Note: The DVD Player is sometimes able to play file formats that can not be played by USB or over a network, and visa versa.

*Important: Firmware Versions 1.07.xxx can NOT play ISO files, or VIDEO_TS folders as a DVD.
There will soon be a 1.08.xx series of firmware released to provide playback of these file types.
If you have a DP-P2 with 1.05.xxx firmware, stick with the 1.05 series until 1.08 is released.


Officially Supported Video File Types:
? Movie : mkv, wmv 9, avi, mpg, vob, mp4, asf, tp, trp

Video File Types that play properly:
- .wmv Windows Media Video version 9 (not WMV 7 or 8 )
- .avi Divx
- .avi Xvid
- .mpg (except with Dolby Digital audio)
- .vob (only uncompressed and without Dolby Digital audio)
- .mp4 H.264 (up to 1080i)
- .asf
- .tp
- .trp
- .iso DVD images (except 1.07.xxx series firmware)
- .mkv Matroska Video

Video File Types that play after minor tweaking:
- .rec - rename the extension to .ts or .mpg
- .mts AVCHD - rename the extension to .mp4 (see this topic)

Video File Types that play currently with minor issues:
- .vob (except with Dolby Digital audio or compressed)
- .ts (progress-bar, skipping, ffwd and rew may not work)

Video File Types that currently won't play:
- .mov Apple Movie
- .rmv Real Media Video
- .flv Flash Video
- .swf Shockwave Flash Object
- .avi files recorded by Digital Cameras (Canon, others?)
- .avi files created using the Microsoft DV AVI codec (Movie Maker)


Officially Supported Subtitle File Types:
? Movie subtitles : smi, sub, art

Subtitle File Types that play properly:
- .smi
- .sub
- .art


Officially Supported Audio File Types:
? Music : MP3, WMA, AAC, Ogg, AC3, Play list

Audio File Types that play properly:
- .mp3 (tested to 320kbps)
- .ogg Ogg Vorbis
- .wav Wave (up to 48kHz and 16 bit)
- .aac
- .wma Windows Media Audio (up to 192kb/s)
- .asf Windows Media Audio
- .m4a iTunes (but not if DRM "FairPlay" encrypted) (with older firmware, rename the extension to .aac)

Audio File Types that play after minor tweaking:
- ?

Audio File Types that play currently with minor issues:
- ?

Audio File Types that currently won't play:
- .m4a iTunes DRM "FairPlay" encrypted files
- .flac .fla Flac (not seen by bw)
- .mka Matroska Audio (not seen by bw)
- .ape Monkey's Audio (not seen by bw)

Audio File Types that are currently untested: ???
- .ra .rm .ram .rmvb Real Audio
- .mpc .mp+ .mpp Musepack
- .w64 Sony Wave64
- .mid .rmi MIDI
- .tta The True Audio
- .wv .wvc WavPack
- .m2a .mp1 .mp2 .mpga .mpa .mpx


Officially Supported Image File Types:
? Photo : BMP, JPEG, PNG

Image File Types that display properly:
- Bitmap .bmp (only 8bit/256color or higher)
- JPEG .jpg .jpeg
- PNG .png - interlaced and non-interlaced
- GIF .gif

Image File Types that display after minor tweaking:
- Bitmap images with the .dib extension - rename to .bmp (only 8bit/256color or higher and only Windows format RGB encoded - Not OS/2 format or Run length Encoded)
- JPEG images with the .jpe or .jfif extensions - rename to .jpg or .jpeg

Image File Types that display currently with minor issues:
- Active GIF .gif (only displays the first image)

Image File Types that currently won't display:
- Bitmap .bmp lower than 8bit (4bit/16color or 1bit/B+W/Monochrome)
- WordPerfect Bitmap .wpa (not seen by bw)
- TIF .tif .tiff (not seen by bw)


If you spot any inaccuracies, or know of some other file types, please reply to this thread so I can update this post.
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[IanSav]

Hi Dave,

I have not had much success with .MOV files.

I think that as well as the standard extensions you list could benefit from listing that actual codecs that work and don't work. This would be more helpful than generic .AVI file extensions.

Does anyone have a small free utility that easily declares the codecs, data rates and resulutions of media files?

Regards,
Ian.

[mankmeister]

Does anyone have a small free utility that easily declares the codecs, data rates and resulutions of media files?

MediaInfo

[IanSav]

Hi Mankmeister,

Does anyone have a small free utility that easily declares the codecs, data rates and resulutions of media files?

MediaInfo

Thank you!

Regards,
Ian.

[TT]

Unofficial list of file types that are known to play correctly on the beyonwiz S1 and P1 with the current official release firmware (01.03.077).



Audio File Types that play properly:
- .mp3
- .ogg
- .wav
- .aac

If you spot any inaccuracies or know of some more please reply to this thread so I can update this post.

WAV will not play at bitrates higher than 48kHz and 16 bit. I have all my DVD-A 2ch tracks ripped to HD and these go up to 192kHz and 24 bit. Currently we get 192/24 "Unsupported format" which I expected but all the rest have just a hiss and display the track name as with a CD quality file.

Interesting since I have DVD-Vs that have LPCM 48/24 soundtracks and they play OK via the DVD player but will not play the same bitrate files over the network or USB drive.

All bitrate MP3s play fine (tested to 320kbps)

As a suggestion I would amend your list of supported file types to include bitrates because wav is not wav and mp3 is not mp3 all the time. I am currently discussing DD with BW now as some bitrate DD MPG/VOB files will not play the sound either.

What is really good about this is BWs keenness to rectify all these issues.

Cheers TT

[Roger]

The video plays on the following two files but not the audio. The first one is produced by Nero Digital and I don't know about the second. I can't comment on the whys only reporting they dont work for me on my BW but they do on the PC.


ABC HD.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format/Info : ISO 14496-1 version 2
Format/Family : MPEG-4
File size : 1005 MiB
PlayTime : 45mn 30s
Bit rate : 3089 Kbps
StreamSize : 1.55 MiB


Video #0
Codec : H.264
Codec/Info : H.264 (3GPP)
PlayTime : 45mn 30s
Bit rate : 2987 Kbps
Width : 704 pixels
Height : 568 pixels
Aspect ratio : 5/4
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.293
StreamSize : 972 MiB


Audio #0
Codec : AAC LC-SBR
Codec/Info : AAC Low Complexity with Spectral Band Replication
PlayTime : 45mn 30s
Bit rate : 97 Kbps
Bit rate mode : VBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 31.5 MiB


And this one

Pilot (XviD asd).avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family : RIFF
File size : 223 MiB
PlayTime : 1h 13mn
Bit rate : 419 Kbps
Writing library : VirtualDub build 13720/release

Video #0
Codec : XviD
Codec/Family : MPEG-4
Codec/Info : XviD project
Codec settings/Packe : Yes
Codec settings/BVOP : Yes
Codec settings/QPel : No
Codec settings/GMC : 0
Codec settings/Matri : Default
PlayTime : 1h 13mn
Bit rate : 358 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 352 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.066
Writing library : XviD0038

Audio #0
Codec : MPEG-2 Audio layer 3
Codec profile : Joint stereo
PlayTime : 1h 13mn
Bit rate : 48 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 24 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Writing library : Xing (very old)

[Lex200]

I can't see wma on your audio list. I've played 192kb/s wma files successfully over a network.
Cheers
Lex

[DaveR]

Lots of updates to original post...

[DaveR]

Unsupported Windows Movie Maker AVI

General #0
Complete name : H:\_Beyonwiz\test_files\Movies\Unsupported_WindowsMovieMaker.avi
Format : AVI
Info : Audio Video Interleave
Family : RIFF
File size : 20.6 MiB
PlayTime : 17s 66ms
Bit rate : 10107 Kbps
Writing library : VirtualDub build 13870/release

Video #0
Codec : RGB
Family : RGB
Info : Device Independent Bitmap
PlayTime : 17s 66ms
Bit rate : 10006 Kbps
Width : 185
Height : 150
Aspect ratio : 1.233
Frame rate : 15 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 24.039

Audio #0
Codec : PCM
Family : PCM
Info : Microsoft PCM
PlayTime : 17s 66ms
Bit rate : 88 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 11 KHz
Resolution : 8

[DaveR]

Unsupported Canon camera AVI

General #0
Complete name : H:\_Beyonwiz\test_files\Movies\Unsupported_Canon.AVI
Format : AVI
Info : Audio Video Interleave
Family : RIFF
File size : 4.24 MiB
PlayTime : 18s 799ms
Bit rate : 1891 Kbps
Mastered date : UTC 2006-03-04 11:14:43
Writing application : CanonMVI01

Video #0
Codec : M-JPEG
Info : M-JPEG including Huffman Tables
PlayTime : 18s 800ms
Bit rate : 1790 Kbps
Width : 320
Height : 240
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 15 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.554

Audio #0
Codec : PCM
Family : PCM
Info : Microsoft PCM
PlayTime : 18s 800ms
Bit rate : 88 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 11 KHz
Resolution : 8

[Lex200]

Using Gordian Knot I created a large DivX .avi file from a .mpg edited in VideoRedo. I thought that the DivX format was fully supported and would be a good way to archive files.
Playing the file back over the network, if I press any of the skip or FF/RW buttons I get a Function Not Supported message. The file plays OK otherwise.

Does this mean that DivX should be listed as not fully supported or is this a result of my particular process?

[mankmeister]

Using Gordian Knot I created a large DivX .avi file from a .mpg edited in VideoRedo. I thought that the DivX format was fully supported and would be a good way to archive files.
Playing the file back over the network, if I press any of the skip or FF/RW buttons I get a Function Not Supported message. The file plays OK otherwise.

Does this mean that DivX should be listed as not fully supported or is this a result of my particular process?

I noticed this same lack of navigation when I joined a couple of XviD files using Avi-Mux GUI. When using VirtualDub or Avidemux to join the files, navigation worked fine.

Try using VirtualDub to recreate the AVI container.

Open the file in VirtualDub and select 'Direct stream copy' under both the Video and Audio menus. Then save the file under a different name and try it on the BW.

Edit: The above will only work if the audio has a constant bit rate (CBR) rather than a variable bit rate (VBR). Use Avidemux if you have VBR audio.

[mankmeister]

The video plays on the following two files but not the audio. The first one is produced by Nero Digital and I don't know about the second. I can't comment on the whys only reporting they dont work for me on my BW but they do on the PC.

ABC HD.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format/Info : ISO 14496-1 version 2
Format/Family : MPEG-4
File size : 1005 MiB
PlayTime : 45mn 30s
Bit rate : 3089 Kbps
StreamSize : 1.55 MiB


Video #0
Codec : H.264
Codec/Info : H.264 (3GPP)
PlayTime : 45mn 30s
Bit rate : 2987 Kbps
Width : 704 pixels
Height : 568 pixels
Aspect ratio : 5/4
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.293
StreamSize : 972 MiB


Audio #0
Codec : AAC LC-SBR
Codec/Info : AAC Low Complexity with Spectral Band Replication
PlayTime : 45mn 30s
Bit rate : 97 Kbps
Bit rate mode : VBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 31.5 MiB

I was playing around with an MKV file on the weekend trying to get the H264 and AC3 streams into a MP4 container.

Once I converted the AC3 audio to AAC, I was able to create an MP4 file.

When playing this file on the BW, the video played but there was no audio as I had the digital output set to 'passthrough'. Not surprising as my amp doesn't support AAC. When I changed it to 2.0, the audio played.

How do you have your BW setup audio-wise?

[Roger]

[I was playing around with an MKV file on the weekend trying to get the H264 and AC3 streams into a MP4 container.

Once I converted the AC3 audio to AAC, I was able to create an MP4 file.

When playing this file on the BW, the video played but there was no audio as I had the digital output set to 'passthrough'. Not surprising as my amp doesn't support AAC. When I changed it to 2.0, the audio played.

How do you have your BW setup audio-wise?

I assume that you have audio cables from the BW to the amp as well as the digital out? I just have an optical link to the amp which was set on both pass through and tried on 2.0. I suppose it makes sense now - my amp won't do AAC either and I didn't have any analog links from it to the BW. In my defence though the same setup with the same files works on the PS3 which must convert the AAC to PCM or DD before it sends it to the amp.

[mankmeister]

No, I'm just using the coaxial digital output.

I definitely did get sound on both 2.0 and 5.1, though.

Unfortunately, I didn't keep the file and have decided to stick with converting the H264 video to XviD while retaining the AC3 audio rather than converting the AC3 to AAC and keeping the H264 video.

[peteru]

In theory, it should be possible to remux H.264/AVC and AC3 into an MPEG-2 transport stream. I haven't tried.

Of course, best option would be for Beyonwiz to implement Matroska support - the source code to do this is freely available, so it should be much easier to do than some of the other formats.

[IanSav]

Hi Peteru,

Of course, best option would be for Beyonwiz to implement Matroska support - the source code to do this is freely available, so it should be much easier to do than some of the other formats.

Can you please post the most appropriate links to the source so that Dave and/or Madmax can update the appropraite wishlist posts (the ones that Beyonwiz engineers look at) with the relevant information.

Regards,
Ian.

[peteru]

The main site is here: http://www.matroska.org/

libmatroska is a C++ libary to parse Matroska files: http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libmatroska/

libebml is a C++ libary to parse EBML files: http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libebml/

Specifications and programming documentation: http://www.matroska.org/technical/specs/

[IanSav]

Hi Peteru,

Thanks!

Dave / Madmax over to you.

Regards,
Ian.

[madmax]

MKV and MKA have been on the wishlist for a while now......is this what you mean?

[IanSav]

Hi Madmax,

MKV and MKA have been on the wishlist for a while now......is this what you mean?

No, I was hoping that you would add the development and source file links that Peteru provided to the first post so that the Beyonwiz engineers would find the reference material without having to search the thread or do their own research.

Regards,
Ian.

[madmax]

Great idea....done, and also done for .flac as well.

[brianh]

Would it be possible to have the Wizbox tweaked so it will recognise compliant file types that it can play, such as ~.rec files? (should I have entered this in the Wish-list instead??)

[scdawson]

I happen to have a number of AC3 files I've accumulated over the years, and I'd just like to confirm that the BW plays these back fine. If you have audio output set to 'passthrough' and S/PDIF enabled, then you get full 5.1 Dolby Digital surround sound from your home theatre receiver.

[scdawson]

Audio File Types that play after minor tweaking:
- .m4a - rename the extension to .aac (not iTunes .m4a files)

This probably needs clarification. The BW will play .mp4 files created by iTunes if they are renamed to .aac, but will not play .m4a files with DRM purchased through the iTunes store.

[IanSav]

Hi Stephen,

This probably needs clarification. The BW will play .mp4 files created by iTunes if they are renamed to .aac, but will not play .m4a files with DRM purchased through the iTunes store.

DRM - Blah!!!

http://defectivebydesign.org/

Regards,
Ian.

[scdawson]

Heh. Just installed a Pioneer Blu-ray drive in my computer and played first disc. Pops up and says I can't play it because I need HDCP on my system. Monitor is a high end BenQ, but I only have a cheapish graphics card because I don't do games. It doesn't support HDCP, so I have to unplug my DVI connection and go back to D-SUB15.

Yes, I hate HDCP. And it's pointless anyway. I just upgraded my AnyDVD install to AnyDVD HD (costs $US30 extra) and now I have region free Blu-ray with AACS decrypted and HDCP restrictions eliminated, so I can go back to my DVI monitor connection.

[Vortical]

Audio File Types that play after minor tweaking:
- .m4a - rename the extension to .aac (not iTunes .m4a files)

All my music cd collection is ripped using ITunes and some using Wndows Media Player Lossless.
It's going to be quite a job to rip all that again in a format that the BW can use.

I guess i'll just have to wire up Audio Cables to my receiver for Itunes for the time being.
Although I hope it will eventually be able to play all Itunes music. But I guess that may never happen if this product is really in direct competition with AppleTV

Also the pause between a photo slideshow with the animated hourglass really detracts from the slideshow and is quite annoying IMHO.

[tonymy01]

Yeah, it should just background load/cache each image, then put up on the screen at the required time.

[alwayslooking]

If you spot any inaccuracies or know of some more please reply to this thread so I can update this post.

I tried a few fragments of files that I managed to (after many attempts) copy off a TF7000HDPVRt (not mine thankfully, phew, made the right decision with the Wiz)

They wouldn't play on the Wiz, would that be because of the audio stream?

They have an mpg extension, but the Wiz doesn't like them at all.

[prl]

If you spot any inaccuracies or know of some more please reply to this thread so I can update this post.

I tried a few fragments of files that I managed to (after many attempts) copy off a TF7000HDPVRt (not mine thankfully, phew, made the right decision with the Wiz)

They wouldn't play on the Wiz, would that be because of the audio stream?

They have an mpg extension, but the Wiz doesn't like them at all.

I found I needed to convert them from Transport Stream to Program Stream to make the BW recognise them. I used MPEG Streamclip for this, but there are other tools that can do it too.

Maybe renaming them to .ts will also work? Haven't tried that.

[alwayslooking]

I think you're right, it probably needs converting.

I tried renaming as a .ts, no joy.

[IanSav]

Hi Tonymy01,

Yeah, it should just background load/cache each image, then put up on the screen at the required time.

This feature is on the wish lists.

Unfortunately I believe there is an issue is satifying the request. It is something to do with the size of some pictures and the lack of sufficient memory to buffer 2 large images at once. Hopefully Beyonwiz will find a way to make this happen.

Regards,
Ian.

[tonymy01]

Scratch whatever I said about not playing xvid.
Don't know what has changed, but now the thing is playing many of the avi's that I am throwing at it (via 802.11b wireless, with not really a big delay to start).
I did create a new share on a different drive on my main pc, and moved some of the offending files across, and did a BW factory reset (and thus re-acquire the share details on my PC). In fact, before the factory reset, it appears the BW caches some info related to the PC connectivity, as it wasn't picking up the new share I setup, and was very quick to tell me it couldn't play a couple of files (typically it spends 10seconds pre-loading the files before giving the "can't play" type messages). I wonder if it is a permissions thing rather than a codec thing, and the new share fixed this??
More tests later maybe.

[jpp]

Hi Tonymy01,

Yeah, it should just background load/cache each image, then put up on the screen at the required time.

This feature is on the wish lists.

Unfortunately I believe there is an issue is satifying the request. It is something to do with the size of some pictures and the lack of sufficient memory to buffer 2 large images at once. Hopefully Beyonwiz will find a way to make this happen.

Regards,
Ian.

I can perhaps add my 2c worth here, by comparing the Wiz to my Snazio Media Player.

The Snazio uses Server Software on your PC to do the reformatting of JPGs, before the processed picture gets uploaded to it. I can tell you that the larger the picture, the harder the CPU has to work, taking up to 25% of a 2.8 GHz PIV.

Now, this does give the Snazio seemless transition between pictures - fade out, fade in, but it still ain't exactly fast, but much faster than the Wiz. I did some trials and comparisons earlier in the piece when I had an S1 - haven't tried it again yet on my P1.

So, I am wondering, if there isn't enough RAM or CPU grunt in the Wiz itself, maybe a BAP could be developed that would work in conjuction with your PC to get the JPG processing done in real time on the PC the same way as it is now done on my Snazio. This doesn't help of course if you store your pictures anywhere else but on your PC or USB attached storage. I have no problems running JPGs of my NAS - there is more than plenty of bandwidth in both directions simultaneously, i.e the picture comes from the NAS into the PC, gets processed, and then spat out again to the Media Player over the same ethernet connection.

[muzzlightbeer]

I converted a few of the kids DVDs to .avi (to prevent them destroying them further ) and the voices follow the mouth movements by some seconds.

I used MTR3 to rip the DVDs, DVD2oneX to isolate the main feature and VisualHub to convert to .avi.

Sorry, I'm not up on the different codecs. Does anyone know what I did wrong / or missed out?

[DrPhil]

Sounds like a mouthful Muzz,

If anyone knows of an all in one solution to get DVD to AVI then I'll be keen to know.

I tried streaming my MP4s (PSP version) and I get mausing and pausing like you would not believe (LAN or WLAN). AVIs are good though. So its AVIs from now on for me.

Ta in advance

Phil

[muzzlightbeer]

interestingly, I tried converting the same DVD to MP4 with H.264 encoding (whatever that means) and it works fine. Same audio setting too. Takes an awful lot longer to convert though.

Dr Phil prefers .avi and I now prefer to use .MP4. Go figure.

Funny though, the MP4 seems to deliver better video quality, but is a considerably smaller file. (2.55Mb vs 3.26Mb)

[peterjcat]

Dr Phil:

Handbrake does a good job of DVD to AVI and is available on Mac or Windows. I've found that the best solution to convert DVDs for the BW is to use MPEG4 video and AC3 audio in an AVI container. MPEG4 isn't as efficient as H.264 so needs a high bitrate, but it's dead easy to encode and decode and the BW doesn't have any trouble keeping up with 3000kbps if you want to go that high. Xvid is another alternative but takes longer to encode and in my experience isn't noticeably better.

Remember AVI and MP4 aren't codecs but containers, so the problem may not be with your MP4 but in whatever codec you've got in there. I can play MP4 files with either H.264 or MPEG4 video with usually no problems -- except that the MP4 container can't hold AC3 audio so there's no Dolby Digital 5.1. (It can hold 6-channel AAC, but no AV equipment can decode that at the moment.)

The most faithful DVD solution would involve H.264 video and AC3 audio, which can be achieved with a hack to the AVI format or more elegantly with the newer Matroska (MKV) container format. The BW can't play either at the moment, but fingers crossed. Jackie has said that the next round of firmware will try to address some of the content problems.

Anyway, Handbrake is a good tool for the current limitations of the BW and will be even better if and when the BW's capabilities are extended. It happily converts DVDs to any of the formats mentioned above. And it's free!

You can rip a DVD to a VIDEO_TS folder on your hard drive before converting, but in most situations you don't have to. (But it's useful to so you can set up a queue of multiple DVDs to convert one after the other, eg overnight.)

Muzz:

I'd recommend you try MTR3 -> Handbrake instead of your current system and see if that works; by eliminating one of the stages in the chain at least you'll eliminate one potential source of sync issues. Handbrake will find the main feature for you, direct from your ripped VIDEO_TS folder, and I haven't had any a/v sync issues with the latest build of the software (0.9.0).

MTR can also rip the main feature direct to a single VOB file, which the BW can generally play (I've had some trouble with aspect ratios on certain DVDs). This has the advantage that it's very fast and suffers no audio or video quality loss; it has the disadvantage that the files are as big as they always were, often ~6GB. I also haven't experimented with things like subtitles and don't know how exactly they're encoded/preserved in the VOB files.

The search for the ideal archive continues.

Best
pjc

[peterjcat]

interestingly, I tried converting the same DVD to MP4 with H.264 encoding (whatever that means) and it works fine. Same audio setting too. Takes an awful lot longer to convert though.

Dr Phil prefers .avi and I now prefer to use .MP4. Go figure.

Funny though, the MP4 seems to deliver better video quality, but is a considerably smaller file. (2.55Mb vs 3.26Mb)

That's right, Muzz -- H.264 is a more modern and efficient codec so gets much better video quality for any given size (the difference is especially pronounced at lower bitrates). Right now I prefer AVI because it can hold a Dolby (AC3) 5.1 track, which an MP4 can't, and I reckon sound is about as important as video for pulling you into the experience (for movies anyway -- for TV shows I use H.264 in an MP4 container because they're almost never in 5.1).

[netmask]

My P1 will not play the following file details given below - puts up an unsupported file type message.

Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family : RIFF
File size : 700 MiB
PlayTime : 1h 27mn
Bit rate : 1107 Kbps

Video #0
Codec : Intel H.264
Codec/Info : Intel H.264
PlayTime : 1h 27mn
Bit rate : 966 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 368 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.171

Is it because H264 is not supported or the frame rate of 23.976 ?

[Gully]

Netmask

I've played H264 files so not that.

I'll try and have a look at the frame rate tonight.

[peterjcat]

It's because the BW won't play H.264 video in an AVI container -- this has been added to the wishlist so we'll see what happens. AVI is much older than H.264 and so H.264 basically has to be shoehorned into an AVI using various non-standard hacks, and compatibility issues start to arise pretty quickly.

As above, the only solutions at the moment are to put your H.264 in an MP4 container (but you can't use AC3 audio, so the best surround sound you'll get is Dolby Pro Logic II) or keep the AVI (and the AC3 audio) and use MPEG-4 or XviD for video instead.

And wait for native Matroska support -- but no other non-PC media player in the universe has this at the moment (so it would certainly be a coup for the BW).

[netmask]

It's only one file - but I've ordered the dvd so the problem will go away for me in a week. I'll try to convert it to mp4 as an experiment and see what happens. The original audio is very basic stereo.

[peterjcat]

It's not just one file, it's the principle of the thing

MP4 should work much better.

[ghost]

Hi all,
I noticed from the compatibility list that the BW doesn't play some home videos created by manufacturers such as canon etc. I'd like to add JVC to the list. Why is it that the bw can't play these and yet media player on my pc can. I would have thought that these camera makers would use common formats for ease of use ??

Tom.

[IanSav]

Hi Tom,

It is all a matter of codecs and codec options. The Beyonwiz has a different and probably smaller range of codecs than that available on a PC.

We are hoping that Beyonwiz will add more of the popular codecs over time.

Regards,
Ian.

[pjc3]

Hi all,
I noticed from the compatibility list that the BW doesn't play some home videos created by manufacturers such as canon etc. I'd like to add JVC to the list. Why is it that the bw can't play these and yet media player on my pc can. I would have thought that these camera makers would use common formats for ease of use ??

Tom.

Did you install any software from the JVC camera package?. Likely if you did that the install added the codec. The BW doesn't have this ability.
Philip

[j s]

If you're talking about he JVC Everio range they are MOD files which are just mpeg2 files with some additional camera type data added. Just rename them to MPG and the BW will play them fine. Just tried it with one of mine.