Beyonwiz AD055H018 MODEL PSU Repair - UPDATE 25-09-2012
The external just hiccups on the file whereas it is the internal that has the problems stemming from the USB problem and the lockup.
Just seems to be software or hardware related to me as the the whole unit locks up if it stikes a problem with a file.
I have sent a PM to Warkus to see if he thinks it could be the power supply problem
Just seems to be software or hardware related to me as the the whole unit locks up if it stikes a problem with a file.
I have sent a PM to Warkus to see if he thinks it could be the power supply problem
Yes defintiely could be PSU related, it is more likely that than anything else.
What age is your machine? If it is an S1 that is more than 2-3 years old, then definitely it will be PSU related.
PSU spec problems cause major issues with your internal HDD, and the USB ports, as well as HDMI issues, Check HDD errors, and many other problems depending on what revision of PSU you have and what brand of capacitors were originally installed in your unit.
Open your machine up and look at your power supply board in the back left corner of the machine (without touching it) and look for swollen or leaking capacitors, or if not sure take a close up photo of the power supply and email it to me, I will reply to your PM soon.
Mark
What age is your machine? If it is an S1 that is more than 2-3 years old, then definitely it will be PSU related.
PSU spec problems cause major issues with your internal HDD, and the USB ports, as well as HDMI issues, Check HDD errors, and many other problems depending on what revision of PSU you have and what brand of capacitors were originally installed in your unit.
Open your machine up and look at your power supply board in the back left corner of the machine (without touching it) and look for swollen or leaking capacitors, or if not sure take a close up photo of the power supply and email it to me, I will reply to your PM soon.
Mark
Just in case Mark has disappeared for the festive bits 'n pieces.Geoffh wrote:I don't have your email Mark.
in the photo...there seems to be a few blobs of white stuff on different parts of the board but I can't see any swelling on the caps.
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Use the pm icon at the bottom of his post.
That'll get you going.
The swelling on the caps are sometimes not easy to notice without a magnifier, or for my old eyes that was the case
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error 0000 perth
Hi - saw this post.
just got the dreaded error.
who do you recommend i get in touch with to repair the unit
its a couple of years old DP-S!
Thanks
Lorry
just got the dreaded error.
who do you recommend i get in touch with to repair the unit
its a couple of years old DP-S!
Thanks
Lorry
A big thanks to Mark (Warkus) for his patience and expertise in trying to sort out my S1 problems.
What seemed to be software related problems turned out to be the power supply problem.
Mark has repaired my power supply and it has been running smoothly for a few days now so hopefully it is all good now.
There was no visible signs of problems with the power supply but apparently it was not behaving the way it should have and Mark repaired it.
Thanks again Mark
What seemed to be software related problems turned out to be the power supply problem.
Mark has repaired my power supply and it has been running smoothly for a few days now so hopefully it is all good now.
There was no visible signs of problems with the power supply but apparently it was not behaving the way it should have and Mark repaired it.
Thanks again Mark
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Thanks heaps !!!
Warkus... Thanks heaps for your Post. My DP-S1 failed rapidly over the last week. A read of your sticky was a lifesaver. Placed an order with Element14 on Friday, got all Panasonic FM Series delvered today.
The only challange was fitting the new, but wider 1000uF and 1500uF cluster of 3 Caps in the middle of the board. Did not want the 1500uF Caps sitting against the heat sink or the 100Ohm High power resistor. So with a bit of leg bending (Not referring to my wifey here) managed to get some reasonable clearance with the caps stood off about 8mm from the PCB. Given this is a low/no vibration device, should be OK.
P.S. I hate RoHS soldered PCB's.
The only challange was fitting the new, but wider 1000uF and 1500uF cluster of 3 Caps in the middle of the board. Did not want the 1500uF Caps sitting against the heat sink or the 100Ohm High power resistor. So with a bit of leg bending (Not referring to my wifey here) managed to get some reasonable clearance with the caps stood off about 8mm from the PCB. Given this is a low/no vibration device, should be OK.
P.S. I hate RoHS soldered PCB's.
Back to the Forum with a new V2. (RIP my ever trusty DP-S1 and DP-Lite)
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More than a job well done
I would like to add my voice of appreciation to those above.
Warkus repaired my power supply, but more than that, he made would could have been a routine, or even risky transaction into a real pleasure. He was generous with his communication and progress reports, and helpful in all respects. May he prosper and enjoy his business. Bill
Warkus repaired my power supply, but more than that, he made would could have been a routine, or even risky transaction into a real pleasure. He was generous with his communication and progress reports, and helpful in all respects. May he prosper and enjoy his business. Bill
Hi, I have got a refurb P2 from CoTD and it has just come up with Error 0001, could this be due to a PSU cap failure?
If I put it into standby and wait a couple of minutes I can restart it but it only runs for a minute or so before the picture breaks up and eventually locks up.
It is under warranty from CoTD but I think they will probably just refund my money. As I will probably need to freight it back to them at my expense it might be worth my while to have a look inside if you think it is cap related.
Thanks
David
If I put it into standby and wait a couple of minutes I can restart it but it only runs for a minute or so before the picture breaks up and eventually locks up.
It is under warranty from CoTD but I think they will probably just refund my money. As I will probably need to freight it back to them at my expense it might be worth my while to have a look inside if you think it is cap related.
Thanks
David
Hi there,
No this is very unlikely to be a capacitor or power supply problem. It will be a faulty hard drive almost for sure 100%.
Capacitor problems with P1 & P2 machines are very few and far between and usually only occur when people have put their machine in a sealed cupboard or covered the air holes on the top, which most people dont do.
It is not ccompletely out of the question I gues, but being that your machine is a refurb, I am pretty sure DPG would have repaired or replaced the PSU in the machine if it was a capacitor issue, they should have anyway.
It is far more likely to be a HDD issue, especially if you have heard clunking noises coming from the machine, which I think I read you did in the other thread.
So you can either replace the HDD yourself and void the warranty or send back for most likely a credit... If you have a spare SATA HDD lying around, you can test the theory first, but still once opened they will probably not take it back.
Mark
No this is very unlikely to be a capacitor or power supply problem. It will be a faulty hard drive almost for sure 100%.
Capacitor problems with P1 & P2 machines are very few and far between and usually only occur when people have put their machine in a sealed cupboard or covered the air holes on the top, which most people dont do.
It is not ccompletely out of the question I gues, but being that your machine is a refurb, I am pretty sure DPG would have repaired or replaced the PSU in the machine if it was a capacitor issue, they should have anyway.
It is far more likely to be a HDD issue, especially if you have heard clunking noises coming from the machine, which I think I read you did in the other thread.
So you can either replace the HDD yourself and void the warranty or send back for most likely a credit... If you have a spare SATA HDD lying around, you can test the theory first, but still once opened they will probably not take it back.
Mark
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As I've said a couple of times on the topic of COTD's "refund only" warranty, the ACCC says that your statutory warranty allows you to choose refund, replacement or repair at your discretion.
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I agree Peter, they "should" be offering a replacement unit, but if they have no more to offer, then this can not be enforced.
They will simply claim they have run out and therefore are offering a full refund instead.
This is highly likely the case, as I bet they did not keep a percentage of stock for warranty and it is very unlikely DPG have any more.
As for repair, that is very true. They should be accepting them back and organising for repair through DPG directly themselves. The downside to this is the time that this process would most likely take for the end user.
I dont imagine it would be a quick turnaround at all. They still should be offering to do this though, agreed.
Mark
They will simply claim they have run out and therefore are offering a full refund instead.
This is highly likely the case, as I bet they did not keep a percentage of stock for warranty and it is very unlikely DPG have any more.
As for repair, that is very true. They should be accepting them back and organising for repair through DPG directly themselves. The downside to this is the time that this process would most likely take for the end user.
I dont imagine it would be a quick turnaround at all. They still should be offering to do this though, agreed.
Mark
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Not "should". Must.warkus wrote:I agree Peter, they "should" be offering a replacement unit, but if they have no more to offer, then this can not be enforced.
They will simply claim they have run out and therefore are offering a full refund instead.
This is highly likely the case, as I bet they did not keep a percentage of stock for warranty and it is very unlikely DPG have any more.
As for repair, that is very true. They should be accepting them back and organising for repair through DPG directly themselves. The downside to this is the time that this process would most likely take for the end user.
I dont imagine it would be a quick turnaround at all. They still should be offering to do this though, agreed.
Mark
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I really doubt that there is any legal remedy that could force a retailer to provide a replacement when they do not have one available. It would be different if they still had stock.
In the end, it will be a matter of looking at the spirit of the law rather than the actual wording and seeing as they are offering a full refund, I doubt the law would expect any more (perhaps the cost of returning it )
In the end, it will be a matter of looking at the spirit of the law rather than the actual wording and seeing as they are offering a full refund, I doubt the law would expect any more (perhaps the cost of returning it )
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Dealspace currently has 18 refurbished P2s in stock. Dealspace could easily buy one as a replacement.Gully wrote:I really doubt that there is any legal remedy that could force a retailer to provide a replacement when they do not have one available. It would be different if they still had stock.
I think that that's exactly what the ACCC (who administer this law) is trying to do when it's writes:Gully wrote:In the end, it will be a matter of looking at the spirit of the law rather than the actual wording and seeing as they are offering a full refund, I doubt the law would expect any more (perhaps the cost of returning it )
[My emphasis on the last line]For major problems with goods
If there is a major failure with the goods, you can:You get to choose, not the supplier or manufacturer.
- reject the goods and get a refund
- reject the goods and get an identical replacement, or one of similar value if reasonably available, or
- keep the goods and get compensation for the drop in value caused by the problem.
And it doesn't matter that these are refurbished items:
The dealer's warranty can't take away these rights.The consumer guarantees apply whether the goods are new, 'seconds' or second-hand.
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Peter, I agree entirely about this being the customer's right. People need to know what their rights are.prl wrote:Dealspace currently has 18 refurbished P2s in stock. Dealspace could easily buy one as a replacement.Gully wrote:I really doubt that there is any legal remedy that could force a retailer to provide a replacement when they do not have one available. It would be different if they still had stock.I think that that's exactly what the ACCC (who administer this law) is trying to do when it's writes:Gully wrote:In the end, it will be a matter of looking at the spirit of the law rather than the actual wording and seeing as they are offering a full refund, I doubt the law would expect any more (perhaps the cost of returning it )[My emphasis on the last line]For major problems with goods
If there is a major failure with the goods, you can:You get to choose, not the supplier or manufacturer.
- reject the goods and get a refund
- reject the goods and get an identical replacement, or one of similar value if reasonably available, or
- keep the goods and get compensation for the drop in value caused by the problem.
And it doesn't matter that these are refurbished items:The dealer's warranty can't take away these rights.The consumer guarantees apply whether the goods are new, 'seconds' or second-hand.
However I tend to agree with Gully that in practice it will come down to what's achievable, it's one thing to be in the right, it's another thing to be able to enforce your rights. It's a bit like having right of way over a semi trailer when you drive a mini moke - you might be in the right, but the fight might cost you more than the argument is worth.
The following excerpt from the Choice website gives their guidance for consumers and highlights the need to be willing to negotiate to get a mutually acceptable outcome:
"Explain the problem
You should contact the store where you purchased the goods or service. You should explain, either in person or in writing, what the problem is and why you are dissatisfied with the goods or service. See our handy tools for a guide to what you may need to cover.
Suggest a solution
You should then suggest the solution that you would prefer ? repair, replace, refund or for services, have it redone. Ideally, you should be able to come to a mutual agreement with the retailer about the solution, based on your preference. You are entitled to a solution which puts you in the same situation as if the problem had never happened. For goods this may mean repair, refund or replacement, For services, you can ask for the job to be redone or to be paid for the costs of having it redone.
If the retailer is unable to meet your wishes it is reasonable to try and negotiate a solution acceptable to you.
The retailer should provide a temporary product
When you choose to have a product repaired, or replaced, the retailer should offer the customer a temporary replacement till the product is fixed, or the replacement has been provided, to cover any inconvenience.
The retailer should meet cost of transport/freight
If the retailer requires you to send the product to be repaired, replaced or refunded, the retailer should cover this cost.
If you are dissatisfied with the retailer?s response, you can take your complaint to the next level. Ask whether more senior staff at the retailer can review your situation or contact the state/territory consumer protection bodies agency.
State and Territory Offices of Fair Trading and Consumer Affairs
You can make a complaint to their State or Territory Office of Fair Trading, or Consumer Affairs agency. These agencies consider customer complaints and try to resolve them through conciliation with the trader. If they are unable to help, you may need to take your problem to the small claims court - the agency will explain how."
Cheers,
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I agree with Choice's advice about making use of the statutory warranty. However, there seems to have been an assumption that people's rights here are limited to what's in COTD's warranty. That's not so.
I'd have thought that in this case, return for repair would be a reasonable outcome if a replacement can't be provided in a reasonable amount of time. I don't think there's good reason to assume a priori that a replacement can't be provided.
I'd have thought that in this case, return for repair would be a reasonable outcome if a replacement can't be provided in a reasonable amount of time. I don't think there's good reason to assume a priori that a replacement can't be provided.
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Thanks for the reply's guys, I have sent an email to CoTD asking them how to proceed.
I will be trying to have them pick up the freight back but I don't know if I can enforce it as that is only Choice's thoughts.
if the freight is too high I might think about swapping out the HDD myself.
I did hear a sound like it spun down the other night, but if I start up the P2 it does a HDD check and comes out OK, I have played a file from the drive but eventually the P2 locks up after about a minute. I have disabled time shift, and it will even lock up while I am in the setup menu.
When I say lockup the screen goes black, the P2 ignores all button presses except for the off button, if I press it after 5 seconds or so it shuts down. If i reboot it will start up do a HDD check and then lock up even quicker.
Even after being unplugged for 24 hours it locked up within a minute or 2.
I tried to transfer some files off the drive via WizFX but it locked up about a quarter of the way thru.
I will see what CoTD say and go from there.
David
I will be trying to have them pick up the freight back but I don't know if I can enforce it as that is only Choice's thoughts.
if the freight is too high I might think about swapping out the HDD myself.
I did hear a sound like it spun down the other night, but if I start up the P2 it does a HDD check and comes out OK, I have played a file from the drive but eventually the P2 locks up after about a minute. I have disabled time shift, and it will even lock up while I am in the setup menu.
When I say lockup the screen goes black, the P2 ignores all button presses except for the off button, if I press it after 5 seconds or so it shuts down. If i reboot it will start up do a HDD check and then lock up even quicker.
Even after being unplugged for 24 hours it locked up within a minute or 2.
I tried to transfer some files off the drive via WizFX but it locked up about a quarter of the way thru.
I will see what CoTD say and go from there.
David
Hi Sprigo,
The above is not just Choice's thoughts, they are YOUR RIGHTS. There is some good advice there about the best way to approach getting what you are entitled to. Obviously remain calm and remind the retailer of your rights, reminding them that you want to work with them to get an agreed outcome. If they seem totally uninformed remind them that you are prepared to involve Fair Trading or Consumer Affairs departments but that really you just want what you are entitled to that is within their capability.
Of course if they are reasonable from the outset then all's well, but don't just cave in to whatever they say if you don't like it. Jot down a few bullet points as a script and be prepared to remind them of their obligations.
And let us know how you get on....
The above is not just Choice's thoughts, they are YOUR RIGHTS. There is some good advice there about the best way to approach getting what you are entitled to. Obviously remain calm and remind the retailer of your rights, reminding them that you want to work with them to get an agreed outcome. If they seem totally uninformed remind them that you are prepared to involve Fair Trading or Consumer Affairs departments but that really you just want what you are entitled to that is within their capability.
Of course if they are reasonable from the outset then all's well, but don't just cave in to whatever they say if you don't like it. Jot down a few bullet points as a script and be prepared to remind them of their obligations.
And let us know how you get on....
Cheers,
Brian
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Huge thanks to Warkus for the guide on how to replace the capacitors.
My DP-S1 failed yesterday with the 'ERROR 0000' and my search here found this thread. I've replaced all the recommended capacitors except for the 1500uf ones as I simply cannot get them here on the Gold Coast. I have ordered some from a company in Sydney but they won't get here until Monday some time - In the mean time I'll try joining a 1000uf and 470uf together and see how that goes temporarily, as it still has the same error at the moment.
The drives seem like they're spinning-up but there's still the error message.
The funny thing is that it happened after a power outage, which I knew was coming, so I turned the box off to sleep, then after the power came back on I tried to power it up normally and just got the ERROR 0000 message.
Any guesses on whether replacing the two 1500uf capacitors with good ones will work? Or do I have a dead box?
My DP-S1 failed yesterday with the 'ERROR 0000' and my search here found this thread. I've replaced all the recommended capacitors except for the 1500uf ones as I simply cannot get them here on the Gold Coast. I have ordered some from a company in Sydney but they won't get here until Monday some time - In the mean time I'll try joining a 1000uf and 470uf together and see how that goes temporarily, as it still has the same error at the moment.
The drives seem like they're spinning-up but there's still the error message.
The funny thing is that it happened after a power outage, which I knew was coming, so I turned the box off to sleep, then after the power came back on I tried to power it up normally and just got the ERROR 0000 message.
Any guesses on whether replacing the two 1500uf capacitors with good ones will work? Or do I have a dead box?
Hi there,
Yes replacing the 1500uf caps will solve the issue. These are the main caps that fail and they are the cause of the Error 0000 as well.
Do not join caps and do not use the unit until they are replaced, it simply isnt worth the risk. You can do more damage than good.
It isnt real a surprise that a power failure brought the error on, its quite normal for that to be the case, once the caps cool down, they will fail badly on startup again.
Get the proper replacements in and finish it off, and as long as you have replaced all the caps correctly, you will be happy with the result.
Mark
Yes replacing the 1500uf caps will solve the issue. These are the main caps that fail and they are the cause of the Error 0000 as well.
Do not join caps and do not use the unit until they are replaced, it simply isnt worth the risk. You can do more damage than good.
It isnt real a surprise that a power failure brought the error on, its quite normal for that to be the case, once the caps cool down, they will fail badly on startup again.
Get the proper replacements in and finish it off, and as long as you have replaced all the caps correctly, you will be happy with the result.
Mark
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After four years of faithful service from my DP-S1, it's time for me to read this sticky post. Quite impressed actually that I've made it this far without problems.
Now I've got regular HDD checks (even had one spin-down during playback once) and some erratic HDMI issues. Opened the lid and indeed there is a swollen cap - same one as in the pic in the OP actually.
So, time to get my solder on.....
Nixay.
Now I've got regular HDD checks (even had one spin-down during playback once) and some erratic HDMI issues. Opened the lid and indeed there is a swollen cap - same one as in the pic in the OP actually.
So, time to get my solder on.....
Nixay.
Error 0000 on DP-S1
greetings Mark,
I have the 0000 error code on my DP-S1 and do not feel I have enough knowledge to repair it myself. I live in Adelaide and was wondering if there is anyone in Adelaide that I can take my Beyonwiz to for repair.
I await your reply and thank you for your assistance through this forum
Regards
Ray
I have the 0000 error code on my DP-S1 and do not feel I have enough knowledge to repair it myself. I live in Adelaide and was wondering if there is anyone in Adelaide that I can take my Beyonwiz to for repair.
I await your reply and thank you for your assistance through this forum
Regards
Ray
Hi Mark
My repaired S1 has been working great since you did the power supply and other repairs but now the DVD drive has given up.
It opens and closes, then spins up and says no dvd in drive.
Is it an easy fix using standard drives or is it a custom unit ?
Craig
My repaired S1 has been working great since you did the power supply and other repairs but now the DVD drive has given up.
It opens and closes, then spins up and says no dvd in drive.
Is it an easy fix using standard drives or is it a custom unit ?
Craig
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Hi Mark,
Our DP-S1 320 GB (about 3 years old) started freezing up playing back high def videos. Even stuff it recorded itself. I tried resetting it to factory specs. Formatted the hard drive. Updated the firmware to 1.05.350. Nothing easy would fix it. Being desperate I raced out & bought a new DP-P2 from JB Hi Fi while I read up on the forum and chased parts. Old as I am I still know the business end of a soldering iron. So, using your extremely helpful guide I set about exploring the internals. Four obviously blown caps - all Sam Young brand. I replaced five for now because Jaycar didn't have the full set and were mainly selling Suntan branded low ESR caps. The existing Leton branded items all look fine though (for now at least).
It works beautifully now! Better than ever - thank you
Now for the surprise. The main caps in my unit are all sized differently.
The 1500uFs were 3300uFs (2200uF for now because that's all Jaycar had, but it works). The 1000uF was 2200uF. The 330uF is 470uF. The 470uFs were 1000uF. The Board layout was different too but still similar to the photo. I'll order a set of Panasonics from Farnell and swap the Jaycar stuff over when they arrive but I would suggest Sam Young brand should be deleted from your list of acceptable brands. Obviously my machine must have been a later production run so going up in capacitor size suggests Beyonwiz was aware that their power supplies were not up to scratch.
Thanks again, Paul
Our DP-S1 320 GB (about 3 years old) started freezing up playing back high def videos. Even stuff it recorded itself. I tried resetting it to factory specs. Formatted the hard drive. Updated the firmware to 1.05.350. Nothing easy would fix it. Being desperate I raced out & bought a new DP-P2 from JB Hi Fi while I read up on the forum and chased parts. Old as I am I still know the business end of a soldering iron. So, using your extremely helpful guide I set about exploring the internals. Four obviously blown caps - all Sam Young brand. I replaced five for now because Jaycar didn't have the full set and were mainly selling Suntan branded low ESR caps. The existing Leton branded items all look fine though (for now at least).
It works beautifully now! Better than ever - thank you
Now for the surprise. The main caps in my unit are all sized differently.
The 1500uFs were 3300uFs (2200uF for now because that's all Jaycar had, but it works). The 1000uF was 2200uF. The 330uF is 470uF. The 470uFs were 1000uF. The Board layout was different too but still similar to the photo. I'll order a set of Panasonics from Farnell and swap the Jaycar stuff over when they arrive but I would suggest Sam Young brand should be deleted from your list of acceptable brands. Obviously my machine must have been a later production run so going up in capacitor size suggests Beyonwiz was aware that their power supplies were not up to scratch.
Thanks again, Paul
Hi there,
Your model PSU is a totally different model PSU, I guess you did notice that from the pictures, but yet you still followed the guide? There was one batch of S1 machines that came out with P1 PSU's in them, that is what you have. They have not just "upgraded" the caps in this model PSU, it is a totally different design, and you should not refer to this repair guide in order to repair that model.
Please stop using your machine, as soon as possible and contact me for further information, as you definitely have issues if you have replaced the caps with 2200uf caps, and ANY caps purchased from Jaycar will cause you problems, not to mention the fact that you have under spec'd them.
Sorry but your machine should NOT be used as it is now, the repair is not meant for that model PSU, and if I had a way of updating my thread I would make that clearer but sadly I no longer have any edit functionality on it.
I urge you to turn it off and get it repaired properly before using it again, if that model had bulging caps, then there are other issues with your machine such as location, and ventilation, as that model PSU does not "usually" suffer from capacitor issues unless there is another reason causing it.
Mark
Your model PSU is a totally different model PSU, I guess you did notice that from the pictures, but yet you still followed the guide? There was one batch of S1 machines that came out with P1 PSU's in them, that is what you have. They have not just "upgraded" the caps in this model PSU, it is a totally different design, and you should not refer to this repair guide in order to repair that model.
Please stop using your machine, as soon as possible and contact me for further information, as you definitely have issues if you have replaced the caps with 2200uf caps, and ANY caps purchased from Jaycar will cause you problems, not to mention the fact that you have under spec'd them.
Sorry but your machine should NOT be used as it is now, the repair is not meant for that model PSU, and if I had a way of updating my thread I would make that clearer but sadly I no longer have any edit functionality on it.
I urge you to turn it off and get it repaired properly before using it again, if that model had bulging caps, then there are other issues with your machine such as location, and ventilation, as that model PSU does not "usually" suffer from capacitor issues unless there is another reason causing it.
Mark
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BTY,
I stand by Sam Young caps, they are a very good quality capacitor, especially the series used in the Wiz. Most people like to replace their machines with Panasonic, but there is nothing wrong with Sam Young at all.
That is my point, if they have failed, you have bigger issues...
Mark
I stand by Sam Young caps, they are a very good quality capacitor, especially the series used in the Wiz. Most people like to replace their machines with Panasonic, but there is nothing wrong with Sam Young at all.
That is my point, if they have failed, you have bigger issues...
Mark
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Thanks for the immediate reply Mark.
Most definitely the major caps failed with bulging tops or bottoms. Five Sam Young caps in all. I have a degreee in electronics but these days I mostly do hobby work around computers where I have seen the same failures in many motherboards.
I am acutely aware of the issues of heat stress and can assure you the DP-S1 was in a relatively cool position with good ventilation. Most likely the failure is due to voltage stress as we live in an area with high mains volts - 250V is normal here. We had an electrical storm recently and this failure became apparent soon after that event. However, the Beyonwiz was the only casualty it seems.
I accept your view of Sam Yong brand since I expect you see far more of these than I do. I will replace all the caps with recommended brands as soon as possibe. It was only the two 3300's that Jaycar didn't stock and the 4700's they had would not fit in the space. To get the machine going I paralled up 1000uF caps with the 2200's. I should have mentioned this perhaps.
Regarding your guide, the differences in the caps themselves and their locations is clearly important to others so it should only be followed by people with genuine understanding of what they are doing. It very accurately explains the physical disassembly and assembly instructions. Most importantly for me was that its very existence says in neon lights that if the DP-S1 starts to misbehave suspect the power supply. Even if DP-P1 power supplies are a better design the simple truth is that replacing the caps took a machine that would freeze up 4 or 5 times in an evening back to working brilliantly well.
With my background I would have opened up the unit anyway and would have spotted the caps instantly. But I may have attacked the disassembly randomly.
My sincere thanks for your guide and additional thoughts.
Paul
Most definitely the major caps failed with bulging tops or bottoms. Five Sam Young caps in all. I have a degreee in electronics but these days I mostly do hobby work around computers where I have seen the same failures in many motherboards.
I am acutely aware of the issues of heat stress and can assure you the DP-S1 was in a relatively cool position with good ventilation. Most likely the failure is due to voltage stress as we live in an area with high mains volts - 250V is normal here. We had an electrical storm recently and this failure became apparent soon after that event. However, the Beyonwiz was the only casualty it seems.
I accept your view of Sam Yong brand since I expect you see far more of these than I do. I will replace all the caps with recommended brands as soon as possibe. It was only the two 3300's that Jaycar didn't stock and the 4700's they had would not fit in the space. To get the machine going I paralled up 1000uF caps with the 2200's. I should have mentioned this perhaps.
Regarding your guide, the differences in the caps themselves and their locations is clearly important to others so it should only be followed by people with genuine understanding of what they are doing. It very accurately explains the physical disassembly and assembly instructions. Most importantly for me was that its very existence says in neon lights that if the DP-S1 starts to misbehave suspect the power supply. Even if DP-P1 power supplies are a better design the simple truth is that replacing the caps took a machine that would freeze up 4 or 5 times in an evening back to working brilliantly well.
With my background I would have opened up the unit anyway and would have spotted the caps instantly. But I may have attacked the disassembly randomly.
My sincere thanks for your guide and additional thoughts.
Paul
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DP-S1 Power Supply
I thought I would report on my successful replacement of the capacitors in the DP-S1 power supply which I accomplished using Warcus's excellent guide and with his supply of most of the parts.
I was an electronic engineer many years ago and know my way around a soldering iron, so decided to fix the DP-S1 myself.
My DP-S1 is now about 6 years old and was suffering from a non existent display and if the DP-S1 was switched off, it lost the preset programs to record. Having read the forum I decided to replace all the identified caps, the crystal and the cap that keeps the time when power is off. On inspection when I pulled it apart I found a number (though not all) of the caps had bulged. I figured it would be better to have the DP-S1 apart once so replaced all the caps mentioned in this thread as they are only a few dollars and the good ones may well also bulge fairly soon after. I also replaced the crystal and the cap that keeps the internal clock alive once power is removed (4700u I think) with a 1F supercap.
That all happened back in January 2011 and the S1 has been operating continuously with no issue whatsoever ever since.
I hope this will encourage others to have a go and fix their own DP-S1's with the expert help available on this forum. Many thanks to all contributors to this thread and especially to Warkus for his detailed information and support in fixing this common problem.
I was an electronic engineer many years ago and know my way around a soldering iron, so decided to fix the DP-S1 myself.
My DP-S1 is now about 6 years old and was suffering from a non existent display and if the DP-S1 was switched off, it lost the preset programs to record. Having read the forum I decided to replace all the identified caps, the crystal and the cap that keeps the time when power is off. On inspection when I pulled it apart I found a number (though not all) of the caps had bulged. I figured it would be better to have the DP-S1 apart once so replaced all the caps mentioned in this thread as they are only a few dollars and the good ones may well also bulge fairly soon after. I also replaced the crystal and the cap that keeps the internal clock alive once power is removed (4700u I think) with a 1F supercap.
That all happened back in January 2011 and the S1 has been operating continuously with no issue whatsoever ever since.
I hope this will encourage others to have a go and fix their own DP-S1's with the expert help available on this forum. Many thanks to all contributors to this thread and especially to Warkus for his detailed information and support in fixing this common problem.
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Mark,warkus wrote: I stand by Sam Young caps, they are a very good quality capacitor, especially the series used in the Wiz. Most people like to replace their machines with Panasonic, but there is nothing wrong with Sam Young at all.
Mark
I replaced the caps in my 5 y.o. Toppy 5000 - they were Sam Youngs.
The Toppy had been our main PVR for 4 years and was left on 24/7 for that time. It was VERY well ventilated and had an 8cm extractor fan on top running 8 hours per day.
I'd had a couple of small glitches and decided to investigate. The voltages were only marginally off ''ideal'' so I did a preemptive cap change while I had the machine apart - fairly high spec Panasonics.
I was surprised how close the original caps were after so much use and time.
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The white goop may be factory original. You can see some in this older photo of a DP-S1 PSU. At the bottom right of the larger transformer, and (I think) around the red-brown (polyester?) capacitor up at the top left of the PSU, just to the right of where the mains lead comes in.JamesP wrote:...
I must have old mans memory (tm) as I don't recall the goo being put in.
Photos from Dave, IIRC.
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You won't be able to access even a working Beyonwiz internal HDD from a Windows PC. Linux and OS X will be able to read from and write to it.
But the non-spinning-up bit doesn't sound good.
But the non-spinning-up bit doesn't sound good.
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