Additional File Type Support Requests

DaveR · Post by **DaveR** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 20:22

Requested additonal file type support:

- Matroska (MKV/MKA) file support
- ISO DVD Images
- VOB DVD Menus
- Flac
- Apple .MOV files
- RealMedia files
- Flash media files

Bugs in existing supported file types:

* Unable to play .avi files created using the Microsoft DV AVI codec.

* Some VOB files pause at certain points (every 7 minutes?). These same files play ok on a PC or DVD. Uncompressed VOB files seem ok.

* Some .ts and .mpg files recorded via TV Tuner Cards in PCs don't play correctly.
Posted by Altimes:
- Nebula Recorded MPG's in "DVD compatible" mode play ok.
- Nebula Recorded "Broadcast Stream" (.ts) files play at what looks like x32 speed with no audio.
- HD Channel, "DVD Compatible" mode play a little but are badly pixelated with no audio.

If you know of some more bugs, or have requests for support for other file types not listed here please reply to this thread.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:14

Hi Dave,

I think it would be helpful if the Beyonwiz could play all Apple .MOV files, any RealMedia content and any Flash media files. This should enable the Beyonwiz to play any media files commonly found on the Internnet. (This will be extra handy when the wizTV functionality is added.

)

Regards,
Ian.

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 15:29

Allow me to bring this one across from the wish list and give it a big vote. I have hundreds of CDs ripped to AAC in iTunes .m4a files (no DRM) and would love to be able to play them via the wiz, either via USB connected HDD or wireless.

Also, being able to handle iTunes format library/album/playlists would be a huge bonus.

BTW, I saw a spec sheet (I think via a link on the icetv page) that indicates that the BW supports AAC. I don't think this is the case, yet..

Duncan

Hi Max,

I know this has been requested in the "content section", but it seems your thread is the main feature request list.

COuld you please add ITunes formats, specifically loss-less AAC, which have a .m4a extension by default. Others have noted that renaming this to .aac will allow it to work from the Wiz, but I am yet to try it.

Even if it does work, it isn't an option to rename all of my ripped CDs to .aac.

Thanks,

M

peterjcat · Post by **peterjcat** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 21:56

I want to store my DVDs on the server, and it looks like Matroska is the best way to do that. AVC/H.264 seems to be the codec of choice, we all want to keep our Dolby 5.1, and MKV seems the only container that can reliably do both at once (AVI has some problems apparently).

So let's hear it for MKV!

pjc

Swordfish805 · Post by **Swordfish805** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:48

Duncan wrote:Allow me to bring this one across from the wish list and give it a big vote. I have hundreds of CDs ripped to AAC in iTunes .m4a files (no DRM) and would love to be able to play them via the wiz, either via USB connected HDD or wireless.

Also, being able to handle iTunes format library/album/playlists would be a huge bonus.

BTW, I saw a spec sheet (I think via a link on the icetv page) that indicates that the BW supports AAC. I don't think this is the case, yet..

Duncan

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I'd also give a huge vote for the wiz being able to play aac files with a m4a extension. Note all we are asking here is that the wiz recognise a m4a file and process it like a file with an aac extension. The itunes/ipod combination is the market leader in digital music and not being able to play the default format for this combination hamstrings the wiz.

The wiz does play aac files but they have to have aac extensions. This has been covered quite a bit on this forum and elsewhere.

madmax · Post by **madmax** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 13:10

.M4A added to the wishlist, thanks.

craigh · Post by **craigh** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 14:52

I have noticed that teh unit has issues playing DVIX files created with the GO7007 chipset. This is used in Hardware encoders such as used by Convertx etc.

It can play the DIVX file but cannot navigate it - FF or RW

Says something like feature not available.

MPEG 2 created by encoder is fine.

I can send an sample file if needed

Regards

Craig

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 15:54

This is sort of covered but I was trying to play a MP4 file and while the video was fine, no sound due to it being AAC encode.

So I guess I am adding AAC not just for audio files but for videos too.

peterjcat · Post by **peterjcat** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 16:22

That's weird, Gully -- the BW does support the AAC codec; the only trouble was making it recognise AAC in files without an .aac extension (like iTunes .m4a files). I haven't had any trouble playing AAC in an MP4 so maybe there's a different issue with your file?

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 16:24

peterjcat wrote:That's weird, Gully -- the BW does support the AAC codec; the only trouble was making it recognise AAC in files without an .aac extension (like iTunes .m4a files). I haven't had any trouble playing AAC in an MP4 so maybe there's a different issue with your file?

Interesting, and I guess I misread that bit.

I'll try renaming the extension and see what happens.

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 16:52

Well renaming didn't help.

According to WinAmp, it is

1 video H264 Baseline@3, 3482.480 secs, 1083 kbps, 640x360 @ 25.000000 fps
2 audio MPEG-4 AAC LC, 3482.474 secs, 128 kbps, 48000 Hz

Though WinAmp only plays the audio, Nero Showtime plays both.

dcw · Post by **dcw** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 20:41

Hi Gully

Probably obvious to you, but just in case...

I take it that you haven't got the BW set to audio passthru. Your amp probably wouldn't recognise that format so the BW has to do the decoding.

Dave (no expert).

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 21:47

dcw wrote:Hi Gully

Probably obvious to you, but just in case...

I take it that you haven't got the BW set to audio passthru. Your amp probably wouldn't recognise that format so the BW has to do the decoding.

Dave (no expert).

Well not so obvious as I didn't try that.

Duh!! It works.

I need to get my head around the pros and cons of passthrough.

Lex200 · Post by **Lex200** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 14:54

This is an old thread but seems the best place to add requests, even if reported elsewhere.

Additional formats
WMA lossless

Bugs in existing formats:
.ts files created by WizFX and .ts and .vob files created by Videoredo play with poor navigation over network e.g. skipping inaccurate and unpredictable

Neon Kitten · Post by **Neon Kitten** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 17:03

Lex200 wrote:Bugs in existing formats:
.ts files created by WizFX and .ts and .vob files created by Videoredo play with poor navigation over network e.g. skipping inaccurate and unpredictable

Not always, strangely.

I reported a while back when posting about the HDMI delay bug that I could not get the BW to stream a VideoReDo-created VOB of an episode of My Name Is Earl from Seven HD.

However, the other night I tried it again, and the entire episode played through flawlessly. Then I tried another VOB (SD this time) - and it skipped, stuttered and eventually froze.

This is the same behaviour I see consistently with H.264 files - yet WMV HD files play perfectly every time. I suspect it's more of a memory issue than a network one.

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 18:08

Last week I've got DP - P1 WITH 250GB drive. Very nice device.
It's does the job almost, however ... I have not seen any thread about IPTV
I think it can be implemented quite easily.
any thoughts?

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 18:37

Welcome Alex

Strange you got a 250GB drive.

There is some suggestion in the future of Internet services but whether that includes IPTV no one knows.

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 22:02

Thanks Gully.

I am a software developer and recon that introducing IPTV is not harder than supporting icetv service, anyway lets hope.
Regarding support of MKV. In my opinion this should a priority
I understand that it's simply impossible to fix all the bugs/issues and make happy everyone.
But we are talking FULL HD here and MKV makes sense to me. Otherwise I could happy use my XBMC for SD viewing.
I wonder if 1080P file playback is supported.

Yeah sumsung 250gb bought from Good Guys.
Originally they sold me for $935 unit with 200gb but with the faulty drive
They replaced dp-p1 with the new one on the next day and I was very surprised
when I noticed 250 Gb written on the box. So I consider this as a bonus.

Cheers

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 08:26

Alex wrote:Yeah sumsung 250gb bought from Good Guys.

Is it Samsung Spin Point SP2514N?

Neon Kitten · Post by **Neon Kitten** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 08:38

Kind of makes those who paid a premium for the 200GB units feel a little miffed, doesn't it...?

pjc3 · Post by **pjc3** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 08:46

Neon Kitten wrote:Kind of makes those who paid a premium for the 200GB units feel a little miffed, doesn't it...?

It does indeed. especially as mine is a little noisy ..... I wonder how quiet the new 250G is.
Philip

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 09:18

Any computer-based device is likely to be superseded by a newer version with a better price-performance point in fairly short order. I suspect that people buying DP-S1s are probably getting lower prices now than when they were first released, too.

Neon Kitten · Post by **Neon Kitten** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 09:22

prl wrote:Any computer-based device is likely to be superseded by a newer version with a better price-performance point in fairly short order. I suspect that people buying DP-S1s are probably getting lower prices now than when they were first released, too.

When I bought mine, only a matter of weeks ago, unbeknownst to me BW would already have been shipping 250GB units. That kind of sucks.

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 09:40

Neon Kitten wrote:
prl wrote:Any computer-based device is likely to be superseded by a newer version with a better price-performance point in fairly short order. I suspect that people buying DP-S1s are probably getting lower prices now than when they were first released, too.
When I bought mine, only a matter of weeks ago, unbeknownst to me BW would already have been shipping 250GB units. That kind of sucks.

Unfortunately, that's exactly why manufacturers often hold back on notifying about model improvements or new model releases to prevent a fall in sales in anticipation of the new model. They, and their distributors, don't want to be left holding stock that will need to be sold at a discount. You're right, but don't expect them to stop doing it.

Neon Kitten · Post by **Neon Kitten** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 09:45

I'm actually a bit mystified as to why the P1 didn't ship with a 250GB drive in the first place. They were available, they were a few dollars more than the 200GB, so why wait mere months to move to a 250GB drive, thereby upsetting all of the loyal first customers?

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 09:47

Agreed, especially since the Other PVR had 250GB.

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 15:27

Yes sumsung SP2514N

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 15:30

Thanks.

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 15:31

Drive is quiet. Just when I executing anything like play file or FF I can hear a little scratch

craig_perth · Post by **craig_perth** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 16:18

I paid $1050.00 last week for my S1

Although I have no idea of the drive size, was an old unit as my Firmware was WAY old! (.071)

prl wrote:Any computer-based device is likely to be superseded by a newer version with a better price-performance point in fairly short order. I suspect that people buying DP-S1s are probably getting lower prices now than when they were first released, too.

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 16:23

What model HDD did you get? (Setup>System>HDD>HDD Information)

craig_perth · Post by **craig_perth** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 16:25

PRL, Will look tonight and let you know... (That is if you were asking me)

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 16:26

craig_perth wrote:PRL, Will look tonight and let you know... (That is if you were asking me)

Yep, I was. Should have quoted you.

Cheers,

craig_perth · Post by **craig_perth** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 19:13

Hmmm Its a SAMSUNG SP2014N, now I know why it was cheap! 200GB HDD... dont they come with 250GB?

The Firmware was .071... I have had it a week

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 19:18

craig_perth wrote:Hmmm Its a SAMSUNG SP2014N, now I know why it was cheap! 200GB HDD... dont they come with 250GB?

No. Well, we've had one report of someone buying one, so no idea if it is the trend, or even if he bought one someone replaced the HDD in.

pjc3 · Post by **pjc3** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 19:19

All the original S1s and P1s came with 200gb HDD. The most recent now come with the 250gb. Speculation is that the 200gb are now no longer available or they had some vibration issues (mainly on the P1).
Philip

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 19:21

craig_perth wrote:Hmmm Its a SAMSUNG SP2014N, now I know why it was cheap! 200GB HDD... dont they come with 250GB?

The Firmware was .071... I have had it a week

No, the DP-S1 and DP-P1 were, and are still advertised as having 200GB disk. Alex reported here that his recently-purchased DP-P1 was delivered with a 250GB drive. If Beyonwiz has decided to move to a 250GB drive, then it may take a while for the older models with the 200GB drives to move out of stock. I don't know whether that's the case, though. It may just have been a short-term shortage of the 200GB drives and they substituted 250GB drives instead, and Alex has been very lucky.

craig_perth · Post by **craig_perth** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 19:31

Ah ok... Yes I read that post before I hijacked this thread...

Cool.. Hey anyone know how many hours you get on the 200GB?

Neon Kitten · Post by **Neon Kitten** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 19:58

craig_perth wrote: Cool.. Hey anyone know how many hours you get on the 200GB?

Depends on the bitrate of the channel, but a rough calculation I did based on HD recordings gave me a figure of slightly over 30 hours on the 200GB HDD. In which case, 250GB should come close to 38 hours.

pjc3 · Post by **pjc3** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 20:03

Which of course is all relatively unimportant if you network or even copy to usb HDD. If you are away for 30 hrs of HD programming then when would you get time to watch it all when you got back anyway?

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 20:06

I can confirm that DP - P1 equipped and advertised as 250GB.
250gb is written on the box and manual has a sticker 250 gb over 200gb

Cheers

Neon Kitten · Post by **Neon Kitten** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 20:10

pjc3 wrote:Which of course is all relatively unimportant if you network

Until file playback via LAN actually works on the BW (it simply doesn't at the moment), and until WizFX transfers get a decent speed boost, that's not all that practical, unfortunately.

If you are away for 30 hrs of HD programming then when would you get time to watch it all when you got back anyway?

You'd be surprised how easy it is to do, especially when "event" programming is involved. And I've got programs from weeks ago on the HDD that I'll get around to watching eventually; that's the beauty of a PVR, it's all there on tap for when it's convenient.

pjc3 · Post by **pjc3** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 20:46

Concur about the file playback - really starting to annoy me having to do all the little manouvers to get it to work.
I still have stuff on the HDD from 2 months ago but still not had time to watch it. Will archive it sometime I suppose.
I do the file transfer overnight - no problem really.
Philip

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 21:19

craig_perth wrote:Ah ok... Yes I read that post before I hijacked this thread...

Cool.. Hey anyone know how many hours you get on the 200GB?

SD is roughly 3GB/hr, HD about 5-6GB/hr. Slice & dice how you will

l.ceddia · Post by **l.ceddia** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 21:20

Hi, I believe you need to restore the playing of AVI files. It worked OK before the software upgrade. This was a feature when you purchase the BW and it was how I justified the purchase to my wife. I told her this is how we could easily watch home movies generated from the digital video camera. For my own safety please restore it

DaveR · Post by **DaveR** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 21:40

There is no difference in vibration or noise between the 200 or 250GB HDDs.

A few with 250GB HDDs slipped out accidently but all current stock in stores should have 200GB HDDs. If you are planning on holding out for one with a 250GB HDD you may be waiting a long time.

50GB extra is peanuts when talking about PVR capacity. Now if only it was 500GB...

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 22:00

Neon Kitten wrote:Until file playback via LAN actually works on the BW (it simply doesn't at the moment), and until WizFX transfers get a decent speed boost, that's not all that practical, unfortunately..

l.ceddia wrote:Hi, I believe you need to restore the playing of AVI files. It worked OK before the software upgrade. This was a feature when you purchase the BW and it was how I justified the purchase to my wife. I told her this is how we could easily watch home movies generated from the digital video camera. For my own safety please restore it

It all works fine here. I have no problem with file playback via LAN or the playing of AVI files

I am not trying to deny you are both having a problem, but it concerns me when you post blanket statements that suggest everyone else has your problems.

They may be firmware related or related to your config or something else, but more info and clarity in your posts please.

Neon Kitten · Post by **Neon Kitten** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 22:55

Gully wrote: It all works fine here. I have no problem with file playback via LAN or the playing of AVI files

AVI files play fine here; LAN playback of HD VOB files (SD is fine) or H.264 files causes stuttering and then a freeze almost 100% of the time (I have successfully played an HD file once and only once). The HD VOBs that won't play on the BW then play fine on the Mediagate MG-350HD connected to the same router using the same product line of chipset...

I am not trying to deny you are both having a problem, but it concerns me when you post blanket statements that suggest everyone else has your problems.

A lot of people here have posted in this forum about problems playing HD files via LAN.

dcw · Post by **dcw** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 23:18

Also, I have AVIs that definitely played OK before the upgrade & won't play now. I think others have mentioned similar.

I do find that most AVIs play OK though.

Dave.