Multiple Beyonwizes in a room

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 23:14

Hi Peter,

prl wrote:I thought you could only switch the code sets on the remote.

I'm not sure. I don't have a DP-P2 to play with.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 08:16

IanSav wrote:Hi Peter,
prl wrote:I thought you could only switch the code sets on the remote.
I'm not sure. I don't have a DP-P2 to play with.

Regards,
Ian.

Hi, Ian.

I don't have one either, but I couldn't find anything about changing the codeset of the Beyonwiz in the DP-P2 online manual, though like all the rest of the manuals, it's way out of date, so perhaps it is possible in newer firmware.

The manual does tell you how to change the codeset of the remote.

glow · Post by **glow** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 08:44

The P2 user manual explains that the remotes are different and that there's a key sequence which allows the P2 remote to control a P1/S1/H1.

4-2. Operating Other Beyonwiz Products
The enclosed remote control (Product code: BR-02) is designed to
operate the DP-P2 only. To operate other Beyonwiz products of DP-S1,
DP-P1 and DP-H1, which are designed to be operated with a remote
control of BR-01, you have to change its operating mode; please press
and hold the numeric button 1 for 5~6 seconds while pressing the OK
button. The red backlight beneath the TV button blinks three-times if
the remote control changes its operating mode successfully.
If you want to return the operating mode of the remote control to
operate the DP-P2, please press and hold the numeric button 2 for 5~6
seconds while pressing the OK button. The red backlight beneath the
TV button blinks three-times if the remote control changes its operating
mode successfully.

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 08:49

glow wrote:The P2 user manual explains that the remotes are different and that there's a key sequence which allows the P2 remote to control a P1/S1/H1.
4-2. Operating Other Beyonwiz Products
...

Yep. I found that bit. I think what IanSav was suggesting was that if you have 2 P2s in a room you could set one to respond to P2 codes and one to respond to P1 codes, then set one remote to send P2 codes and the other to send P1 codes, and so control them separately. I'm sure the remotes can do their half of the trick, but I don't think the P2s can do their bit.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 08:56

Hi Guys,

What I wasn't sure about was when you do the button trick on the remote control does it actually send something to the DP-P2 to tell it to also change code sets.

Regards,
Ian.

grampus · Post by **grampus** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:14

I'm really becoming a TV tragic, and look like I want to have 2 boxes in the one room.
Anyone have any idea if the DP-Lite has a different remote code set to the S1?

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:26

grampus wrote:I'm really becoming a TV tragic, and look like I want to have 2 boxes in the one room.
Anyone have any idea if the DP-Lite has a different remote code set to the S1?

The best information posted so far are the links that glow posted in the What exactly is the DP-Lite? topic. There's nothing about the Remote codeset in that.

What codeset does the FV-L1 have?

Of course, using different models hoping they'll have different codesets really is a complete fudge. What was really needed was the ability to switch codesets in an individual device.

grampus · Post by **grampus** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:07

prl wrote: What codeset does the FV-L1 have?

Don't know if its anything different to the S1.
I just loaded up the FV-L1 to my Harmony, and it seems that the power codes are the same.
So I didn't investigate it any more.

Maybe if I get desperate, I'll have to go the block the receiver with the local rag path

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:20

grampus wrote:...
Maybe if I get desperate, I'll have to go the block the receiver with the local rag path

Yep, that's what I do. The Canberra Times daily entertainment guide folded in half is ideal, one edge tucked under the PVR, with a heavy coaster holding down the top. But I've already patented that

I also configured my Harmony not to turn on the Beyonwiz when entering either View S1 or View H1 mode. It does power the Beyonwiz(es) down using the discrete power off code.

That means I have to turn the Beyonwiz on at the front panel, but unless both are running (three recordings, for example), I don't need to use the folded newspaper trick much.

grampus · Post by **grampus** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 16:06

prl wrote:
grampus wrote:...
Maybe if I get desperate, I'll have to go the block the receiver with the local rag path
Yep, that's what I do. The Canberra Times daily entertainment guide folded in half is ideal, one edge tucked under the PVR, with a heavy coaster holding down the top. But I've already patented that

I also configured my Harmony not to turn on the Beyonwiz when entering either View S1 or View H1 mode. It does power the Beyonwiz(es) down using the discrete power off code.

That means I have to turn the Beyonwiz on at the front panel, but unless both are running (three recordings, for example), I don't need to use the folded newspaper trick much.

Just toddled out and bought the DP-Lite.
FW vers DP-Lite 01 07 029
The remote is the BR01.
The S1 code set works, No reason why it shouldn't. Anything thats unique is on the box itself as opposed to the remote.
Looks like no capability to switch code sets like the P2 may able to product do, as someone said a few posts ago.

Now for a bit of reprogramming the Harmony to no power up, only power down. It did get a little tricky for a while trying to be smart.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 16:21

grampus wrote:...
Just toddled out and bought the DP-Lite.
FW vers DP-Lite 01 07 029
...

I guess that answers people's questions about ISO/TS_FOLDER playback

Could you post (or PM me) the SystemID so I can add it to OpenWiki (if you can't add it yourself), and so I can add it to the BWFWTools list of known SysIDs.

grampus · Post by **grampus** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 16:31

prl wrote:
grampus wrote:...
Just toddled out and bought the DP-Lite.
FW vers DP-Lite 01 07 029
...
I guess that answers people's questions about ISO/TS_FOLDER playback

Could you post (or PM me) the SystemID so I can add it to OpenWiki (if you can't add it yourself), and so I can add it to the BWFWTools list of known SysIDs.

Sys ID 0808 0000 0002 9E3C
Loader 1.1.3.1.77

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 17:14

grampus wrote:...
Sys ID 0808 0000 0002 9E3C
Loader 1.1.3.1.77

Thanks. In the OpenWiz SysID page now.

grampus · Post by **grampus** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 18:49

Re the DP-Lite
You may wish to include the HDD
Hitachi JC0550HVOEJA4A 500 GB

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 20:08

grampus wrote:Re the DP-Lite
You may wish to include the HDD
Hitachi JC0550HVOEJA4A 500 GB

Are you sure about the model number? Great God Google fails to respond to supplications that contain JC0550HVOEJA4A. According to all the data sheets for 500GB drives that I looked at, Hitachi drive numbers should start with H. The second letter 'C' would mean the CinemaStar series, which are optimised vor digital video & surveillance, which makes sense, but none of the rest of the number decodes like a CinemaStar drive.

Can you read the label through the top grille?

grampus · Post by **grampus** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 20:33

prl wrote:
grampus wrote:Re the DP-Lite
You may wish to include the HDD
Hitachi JC0550HVOEJA4A 500 GB
Are you sure about the model number? Great God Google fails to respond to supplications that contain JC0550HVOEJA4A. According to all the data sheets for 500GB drives that I looked at, Hitachi drive numbers should start with H. The second letter 'C' would mean the CinemaStar series, which are optimised vor digital video & surveillance, which makes sense, but none of the rest of the number decodes like a CinemaStar drive.

Can you read the label through the top grille?

All I can do is quote the readout from the HDD info in setup.
Can't see the drive ID through the grill.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 22:28

grampus wrote:
prl wrote:...
Can you read the label through the top grille?
...
Can't see the drive ID through the grill.

Grill? Runs a bit hot, then?

I'll do a bit more digging and see if I can work out what the HDD is.

grampus · Post by **grampus** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 22:51

prl wrote:
grampus wrote:
prl wrote:...
Can you read the label through the top grille?
...
Can't see the drive ID through the grill.
Grill? Runs a bit hot, then?

I'll do a bit more digging and see if I can work out what the HDD is.

If you wish.
I don't think I want to open it up just yet.

The pizza oven below it runs a little hotter.
Got a WD 500 GB HDD in that one as well.

I've got them spaced out by using the packing foam that came to support the sides.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 09:11

grampus wrote:...
I don't think I want to open it up just yet.
...

No. No need to do that.

mick_queensland · Post by **mick_queensland** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 22:58

Hi all,

thought I would throw in my 2 cents worth.

I got interested in this thread because I am considering getting another wiz.

My Poll answer was that I have wizzes in separate rooms so no problem, but that could/will change if I get another wiz. Yes, I could put it in the spare bedroom and run a new antenna cable there and add networking access, but it seems far easier to put the new wiz beside the current P1 in the Lounge. Easier physical access, already have network and antenna access. Not much of a choice really.

So, if I am to buy another wiz, it seems I can only buy a P2 so that it can live harmoniously in the same room as my other wizzes.
Does that sound feasible guys?

Is anyone using a P2 with any other model wiz in the same room?

Prl - are you the 4% with the successful work-around?? "folded Canberra TImes" strategically placed over a wiz.

Cheers
Mick
PS: I guess there are those who are wondering what on Earth could anyone do with four wizzes.... Well, the kids are starting to want this and that recorded, and I was thinking of getting them a wiz of their own. Actually they pretty much have the H1 right now.

grampus · Post by **grampus** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 07:20

mick_queensland wrote: So, if I am to buy another wiz, it seems I can only buy a P2 so that it can live harmoniously in the same room as my other wizzes.
Does that sound feasible guys?

Is anyone using a P2 with any other model wiz in the same room?

Prl - are you the 4% with the successful work-around?? "folded Canberra TImes" strategically placed over a wiz.

.

Very happy with 2 Wizz in the same room. P2 and Lite
2 separate remotes work a treat. So does the Harmony 785.

Beats getting up very now and then to put the blanking plate in the right place.

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:08

It's also possible to hack the firmware so that non-P2 Beyonwizes respond to P2 remote codes or one of six other codesets. There are some minor irritations about this (in particular that the hack doesn't change the code that powers on from standby), but it works reasonably well for me (I created the hack after seeing peteru's observation that the main Beyonwiz application has an option to set the Beyonwiz's code set).

The P2 remote isn't limited to just the original remote and P2 remote codes; it can be set to any of a total of 8 code sets, and the Beyonwiz firmware can be correspondingly hacked.

This is probably the best solution to the multiple-Beyonwizes-in-one-room problem. I run a DP-Lite with its original codeset and a DP-H1 hacked to respond to DP-P2 codes in the same A/V cabinet.

There's some more discussion of the hack here.

mick_queensland · Post by **mick_queensland** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 23:04

Hi all,

OK, so two options,

1. Buy a P2 so it lives happily with my other wizzes (S1, P1 & H1)
2. Hack the firmware to use the P2 remote codes or other set of codes (implies that you could in fact have up to 8 wizzes stacked and not interfere.)

First question, does the power button still bother the different units?
Second Question, this hack seems fairly simple, why hasn't Beyonwiz added this feature to the remotes/units?

Cheers
Mick

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 08:10

Hi Mick,

The DP-S1, DP-P1 and DP-H1 models can't change the front panel power on code sets. The hack only works for remote control signals that are processed (interpreted) by the firmware on the main logic board. The front panel is unaffected by the hack.

The hack is fairly simple. Beyonwiz are unlikely to go down the path of offering replacement front panels that will allow the change to work properly on all older units.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 09:00

What Ian said.

mick_queensland · Post by **mick_queensland** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:11

hi

thanks Ian. That really only leaves one option then. buy a P2. hmmmm

cheers, Mick

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