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stevebow · Post by **stevebow** » Fri May 05, 2017 10:28

A couple of problems I am seeing is a thread showing unread posts when there aren't any, and LFs in CODE blocks when posting are not respected, both of which are pretty darned annoying.

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Fri May 05, 2017 10:39

prl wrote: ↑
Fri May 05, 2017 10:11
How did Curtisnar get back in? I'm sure I banned him yesterday morning. Anyway, I banned him again last night.

So did I, which I would have thought was impossible. I did notice the joining date was last night so he clearly rejoined after being banned the first time.

prl · Post by **prl** » Fri May 05, 2017 11:18

stevebow wrote: ↑
Fri May 05, 2017 10:28
A couple of problems I am seeing is a thread showing unread posts when there aren't any,

That was mentioned in this topic back here.

stevebow wrote: ↑
Fri May 05, 2017 10:28
and LFs in CODE blocks when posting are not respected, both of which are pretty darned annoying.

Discussion of that problem started in this topic back here. The discussion includes a workaround, and my complaint that the workaround only helps those "in the know", so even if you install the workaround in your browser, it only works for you and the others who've done it. Everyone else sees code blocks as a mess.

It would have also been nice if you hadn't deleted your keyboard coloured buttons post while I was preparing a comprehensive reply. Fortunately I've saved the text of my reply if you want to repost the question.

stevebow · Post by **stevebow** » Sat May 06, 2017 13:45

prl wrote: ↑
Fri May 05, 2017 11:18
Discussion of that problem started in this topic back here. The discussion includes a workaround, and my complaint that the workaround only helps those "in the know", so even if you install the workaround in your browser, it only works for you and the others who've done it. Everyone else sees code blocks as a mess.

Thanks, I realise, but didn't wish to simply do a "me too" post.

I also don't wish to install a workaround, even if temporary, to fix a basic function that shouldn't have broken.

It would have also been nice if you hadn't deleted your keyboard coloured buttons post while I was preparing a comprehensive reply. Fortunately I've saved the text of my reply if you want to repost the question.

Thanks anyway, but the reason for the delete is that it suddenly "started working" as expected again. I don't know why, I didn't do anything different as far as I am aware and haven't investigated further, so the query became academic at that point.

Steve

rfmoore · Post by **rfmoore** » Sat May 06, 2017 14:12

I'm using an iPad3 with the safari browser. I'm finding the format has changed in that the number of pages of posts for a particular subject are partly over written by lengthy descriptions of the post and the poster.

I have included an attachment showing the problem I'm experiencing. I have deliberately only copied the right hand side of the page to ensure that the problem is caught in the screen shot.

Reg

prl · Post by **prl** » Sat May 06, 2017 14:57

rfmoore wrote: ↑
Sat May 06, 2017 14:12
I'm using an iPad3 with the safari browser. I'm finding the format has changed in that the number of pages of posts for a particular subject are partly over written by lengthy descriptions of the post and the poster.
...

I don't have an iPad to confirm it on. The display of long titles like that works just fine on the default browser on my Samsung Galaxy S4 Android phone, and also on OS X Firefox if I make the application window narrow.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sat May 06, 2017 15:05

stevebow wrote: ↑
Sat May 06, 2017 13:45
...
It would have also been nice if you hadn't deleted your keyboard coloured buttons post while I was preparing a comprehensive reply. Fortunately I've saved the text of my reply if you want to repost the question.

Thanks anyway, but the reason for the delete is that it suddenly "started working" as expected again. I don't know why, I didn't do anything different as far as I am aware and haven't investigated further, so the query became academic at that point.
...

Had you rebooted or done a GUI restart in the meantime? That was one of the suggestions in my post

keymap.xml is only read when enigma2 starts up - and "GUI Restart" means "restart enigma2".

Another part of the unposted post that may be useful is:

The key definitions you list are:
F9 -> red
F10 -> yellow
F11 -> green
F12 -> blue

I'd find it more logical to use:
F9 -> red
F10 -> green
F11 -> yellow
F12 ->blue
to follow the button order on the remote.

Also, if I was using the Beyonwiz-supplied wireless keyboard, I'd use:
F7 -> red
F8 -> green
F9 -> yellow
F10 ->blue
because on that keyboard F11 and F12 are Fn+F9 and Fn+F10 respectively, and pressing the Fn button also sends KEY_PC key events.

stevebow · Post by **stevebow** » Tue May 09, 2017 14:44

prl wrote: ↑
Sat May 06, 2017 15:05
Had you rebooted or done a GUI restart in the meantime? That was one of the suggestions in my post keymap.xml is only read when enigma2 starts up - and "GUI Restart" means "restart enigma2".

I always deep-standby my T4 when not in use. I had booted it as usual, gone to the media player, plugged in the USB keyboard and tried to rename several files. Each time I pressed the corresponding (or any of F9-F12) key, the invalid key press icon appeared. Yet the keyboard's media keys were working fine.

After moving around and doing other things in the GUI, I later went back to the media player, long-pressed F9 (Red) to rename a file, having forgotten it wasn't working earlier, and hey presto, F9-F12 were working.

I have played around with various scenarios to try reproduce this, without success. It's not really worth the bother to investigate further as it's still working as expected.

I'd find it more logical to use:
F9 -> red
F10 -> green
F11 -> yellow
F12 ->blue
to follow the button order on the remote.

Forget what I wrote, this is how I have it too, far more logical.

Steve

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Tue May 09, 2017 16:14

Hi,

Can anyone confirm that the "Jump to" button, just below the page counter, on the bottom right of the screen when clicked shows a list of forum topics that have *way* too much white spacing?

If others can confirm the issue then can this also be added to the fix list.

Regards,
Ian.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue May 09, 2017 16:41

This is how it looks in OS X Firefox 53.0.2:

: Screen Shot 2017-05-09 at 16.35.22.png (37.92 KiB) Viewed 13042 times

Its row heights are probably a bit too much, perhaps determined by the height of the headings, which I think are OK. The rest have a bit more space than is needed, but I wouldn't say way too much.

I guess the heights are the same for all rows, and they could be trimmed a bit.

It's possible, though, that it looks OK with other fonts, and worse with yet others.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue May 09, 2017 16:51

One thing that could also be adjusted is that on the default browser on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (Android 5.0.1), when I tap on Login, the top of the device screen is between the Username and Password entries on the login/register page, which means that I have to scroll up to enter my username. It should position the top of the device screen at the top of the frame of the Login box, just above the Login heading.

Perhaps there's an anchor in the wrong place or something.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Tue May 09, 2017 17:33

Hi,

This is what the "Jump to" menu looks like on my Windows XP machine when using Chrome:

: "Jump to" using Chrome on Windows XP...; JumpTo.jpg (16.93 KiB) Viewed 13604 times

The same area of the screen looks correct on Chrome under Windows 10.

Regards,
Ian.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Tue May 09, 2017 18:13

Geez, that's a bit rough. Support for Chrome on XP was only dropped about a year ago! I wouldn't have expected a simple forum page to have advanced far enough to break it already.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue May 09, 2017 18:15

IanSav wrote: ↑
Tue May 09, 2017 17:33
... This is what the "Jump to" menu looks like on my Windows XP machine when using Chrome: ...

I have to agree that that is way too much padding.

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Tue May 09, 2017 18:35

IanSav wrote: ↑
Tue May 09, 2017 16:14
Can anyone confirm that the "Jump to" button, just below the page counter, on the bottom right of the screen when clicked shows a list of forum topics that have *way* too much white spacing?

I don't think it's too wide if I scroll down to the "Accessories (USB Tuner, Keyboards, Wifi Dongles)" entry (which is 48 bytes long).

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue May 09, 2017 18:46

I think IanSav is referring to row height being too big on Win XP Chrome, not the column width being too big.

Gully · Post by **Gully** » Tue May 09, 2017 19:20

Looking at mine in Firefox 53.0.2 on Windows 10 looks similar to Peter's image though maybe slightly taller. Nothing like Ian's though.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Tue May 09, 2017 22:58

Hi Grumpy_Geoff,

Grumpy_Geoff wrote: ↑
Tue May 09, 2017 18:35
I don't think it's too wide if I scroll down to the "Accessories (USB Tuner, Keyboards, Wifi Dongles)" entry (which is 48 bytes long).

As the others have noted, I was talking about the top and bottom padding being too excessive.

Regards,
Ian.

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Sun May 21, 2017 15:52

Another item to add to the list of broken things:

Previously, the "Sucuri firewall" would give fairly verbose error messages when it blocked posts. The new implementation is just returning a generic web server "403 forbiden" page, without any clues. It seems that the rules are just as idiotic as they were before. Just including the word curl in a post results in the 403 error.

prl · Post by **prl** » Sun May 21, 2017 16:15

Yes, I've been complaining about that for a while (usually in the context of where I was trying to post bad, bad things like lines starting with the word "copy").

It's bizarrely strange what it whinges about:

rm -rf /

is apparently OK to have in a post...

anajames · Post by **anajames** » Mon May 22, 2017 19:22

Thanks for the update.

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Mon May 22, 2017 23:19

Maybe it's just me, but most of the posts from anajames seem to fail the Turing test.

I've picked up the ban hammer a few times, but resisted it's use.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Mon May 22, 2017 23:30

Well if there is dodginess afoot, there is a long game being played here.

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Tue May 23, 2017 00:15

And that is exactly the reason I put the hammer down gently again.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue May 23, 2017 13:41

Some of the silly restrictions on searches seem to still be in place:

The following words in your search query were ignored because they are too common words: 403.

I came across this while trying to search for "403 forbidden".

OK: so who's going overboard with posting the text "403"? It must be someone!

And why is 403 "too common", when a search for "recording" returns 17209 hits? Surely "recording" is pretty common in that case?

It appears that in phpbb-speak "too common" actually means "has fewer than three characters" as well as meanings that perhaps might be more usual. So "EPG" is too common, and it would be fairly common, but probably not much more so than "recording". But the random string "ftz" is also "too common"! Searching for "ftzx", though, is apparently OK (and doesn't return any matches).

What's wrong with using a stop lists, instead of arbitrary length rules, to avoid indexing words like "and" and "the"?

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue May 23, 2017 13:48

peteru wrote: ↑
Mon May 22, 2017 23:19
Maybe it's just me, but most of the posts from anajames seem to fail the Turing test.

I've picked up the ban hammer a few times, but resisted it's use.

Anajames's slightly odd posts were discussed here, and anajames made a Turing-test compliant response.

Posts on 5 May and on 17 May also seem to pass the Turing test.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue May 23, 2017 13:54

On the other hand, longer words that might be thought to go in a stop list just just handled strangely:

Search found 0 matches: that

Searched query: +that

Go to advanced search
Search found 0 matches • Page 1 of 1
No suitable matches were found.

prl · Post by **prl** » Thu May 25, 2017 17:23

It appears that banning a user doesn't log them out or prevent them posting if still logged in.

Though Emilytoode was banned earlier on, she(?) still shows up as active on the forum and has continued posting. I think that may have been how Curtisnar kept posting after being banned.

Surely, when the banhammer is wielded, the user should be forcibly logged out if still logged in? Is it possible to configure the forum to do this?

Can an admin give Emilytoode's current login the boot? I can't find any way I can do it as a moderator.

Anyone know why we suddenly seem to be getting a plague of these undesirables?

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Thu May 25, 2017 19:00

Hi,

In my opinion this update has been quite disappointing. Many of the bugs reported are still to be fixed.

Regards,
Ian.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Mon May 29, 2017 20:24

Hi,

Are any other users finding that threads they have read keep showing up as having unread posts? When you click to jump to the unread posts you are taken to the first post on the first page of the thread.

To clear the marker I have to specifically mark the thread as read.

(This often happens when SPAM posts are deleted but it also happens on normal posts.)

Regards,
Ian.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Mon May 29, 2017 20:49

I saw that for the first time today. One notification with no unread threads, and clicking the notification to me to the first page of the thread.

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Mon May 29, 2017 20:51

Yep, the "Dreamplex not working with 16.1 major upgrade" thread is doing that for me right now.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Mon May 29, 2017 21:06

Hi,

I wonder if the database underlying the forum is becoming corrupted?

Regards,
Ian.

Paul_oz53 · Post by **Paul_oz53** » Mon May 29, 2017 21:15

Ian,
I have seen that when spam posts have been deleted but otherwise ok.
Paul

prl · Post by **prl** » Mon May 29, 2017 22:16

Since I put dummy posts in a couple of topics that had had spam deleted from them and had been messing up the "new posts" pointers for those topics, I haven't seen any misbehaving new posts pointers.

If you us "back" in the browser and then click on a new post link that has actually been read, that will take you to the start of the topic (oddly, not te end). I fix that by doing a refresh in the browser.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Tue May 30, 2017 01:36

Hi Prl,

The instance that triggered my post was actually after reading one of your posts in a normal thread (no SPAM) and I kept being told that your post was unread.

Regards,
Ian.

MrQuade · Post by **MrQuade** » Tue May 30, 2017 10:11

I just saw another one. I notification that IanB had posted into the Dreamplex thread. There was no new post highlight on the forum or thread, and no post from IanB.

IanB, was that a result of you posting and then deleting it yourself?

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Tue May 30, 2017 10:13

Yes, he's been fiddling.

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 21:15

Formatting of [code] blocks appears to be fixed.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 22:49

Thanks. I'll try it out tomorrow.

prl · Post by **prl** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 23:05

peteru wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 06, 2017 21:15
Formatting of [code] blocks appears to be fixed.

I just tried disabling the fix-code-use-browser-fonts user style, and the code blocks I looked at are a mess. Firefox 53.0.3.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 23:11

Hi,

It doesn't look fixed in the test I just tried. (Chrome on Windows XP.)

Regards,
Ian.

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:29

Looks fine to me.

Make sure you clear your browser cache and then shift+reload the page. Your browser is probably caching the old stylesheet.

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:45

peteru wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:29
... Make sure you clear your browser cache and then shift+reload the page. Your browser is probably caching the old stylesheet.

Yep, that did it for me. I'd only done a shift+reload, not a cache clear.

IanSav · Post by **IanSav** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 17:22

Hi PeterU,

For some reason I needed to force reload the page a few times before the style sheet was correctly updated. (I previously only performed a single reload.)

The code blocks now look correct.

Thank you.

Regards,
Ian.

peteru · Post by **peteru** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 22:45

Not sure what causes that. Could be web server setting, could be the browser. Given the past experiences, I'd be inclined to blame the brain dead Sucuri proxy first.

Altimes · Post by **Altimes** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:27

For those who can look at these things,

It may “be just me”, but the BB quick link to “active topics”, my usual entry point appears to be stuck. The most recent entry that I see is dated January 20.

Alan.

prl · Post by **prl** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:40

The most recent one I see is Jan 21. But it looks broken, though.

Grumpy_Geoff · Post by **Grumpy_Geoff** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:43

Altimes wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:27
It may “be just me”, but the BB quick link to “active topics”, my usual entry point appears to be stuck. The most recent entry that I see is dated January 20.

My experience is that's because 'Active Topics' doesn't usually show posts in 'General Discussion'. nor 'Feedback and Suggestions' (and possibly others).

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